(Closed) Are you following the post about diversity on the main blog?!

posted 10 years ago in African-American
Post # 3
7081 posts
Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

I have been following closely.  Would it be useful for us to come up with some concrete suggestions to present that might help increase the more diverse representation in the Bees?  I have several ideas, and I bet others do too!

Post # 4
1156 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: March 2005 - Westside Loft, New York

I am going to write a followup post, and we are definitely going to take some of your suggestions into consideration. Feel free to leave more either on that post or here on this thread!

Post # 5
1091 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2018 - Oakland Manor

Thanks for posting this, I keep hitting "older" "older" to get to it!

Post # 6
778 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2009

I have been following along as well.  What I like most about it is that I have started to see how diversified the hive is.  Which is nice.

Post # 7
732 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2010 - The Tower Club

I’ve been following it, and it’s very interesting! I’m an African American bride myself, and I hope that our request for diversity isn’t seen as separatism. It seems that’s a concern of many of those who are railing against cultural diversity. We’re hoping to share our perspectives & experiences with everyone, not just have a shout-out to our own!

@Luv2Shop, I’m sorry to hear your application wasn’t accepted. I have a couple of blogs and love to write, but I saw that application process and figured I wouldn’t stand a chance either. I hope you apply again! Your writing in the comments looks insightful and I’d love to hear your wedding planning adventures! 🙂

Post # 8
7081 posts
Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

So, in my real world job, I work to increase the diversity of the physician workforce at my hospital.  I really believe that until there is a critical mass of diverse faces, it is really hard to recruit talent.  The way that we’re addressing that within the hospital is to provide sponsored internships for medical students and to be mindful of diversity as a goal during the selection process. 

While there is obviously not a direct correlation to Weddingbee… One might think that having guest bloggers from different backgrounds might influence the Bee selection process, and that making diversity a priority might improve selection outcomes.

I know that there are several talented African American bloggers who I’ve been following throughout their engagements.  It might even be worth our while to seek some of that talent out!  If someone has been dying to be a Bee, but has been fearful of being rejected, they may jump at the chance if nudged in the right direction.

I’d love to see guest blogs or even a Pro who discusses African American hair and makeup or diverse wedding traditions… such as Native American, South Asian, African American or Latino.  There are so many really cool traditions and such interesting history behind them!  It would be great to share in them more fully.

Post # 9
2292 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2008

I have actually been pretty happy with the level of diversity, and for me this is a question of more than race.  Although it’s clear that specific groups tend to be represented less than others, we do have racial diversity, socioeconomic diversity, professional diversity…  I think it’s always fun to read about different traditions and points of view, but it’s also amazing how specific types of concerns really transcend all our differences. 

I have never had the idea that Weddingbee was some kind of club for any specific demographic.  I do agree that anyone who thinks that their particular group is under-represented should consider getting more involved.  I have worked for a lot of small companies, and I can tell you that as much as you might want to talk about diversity, you hire from the group of qualified applicants that presents themselves.  When I lived in the San Francisco area, I worked at a company that was predominantly Asian American.  When I lived in Denver, the company I worked for was predominantly Caucasian.  I don’t think that either company was unfair in their recruiting or hiring – the workforce just reflected the racial distribution that you saw on the street every day.

It certainly might increase diversity overall to have guest blogging or some other sub-category of bee.  Although it also might not – you may have a very similar demographic applying for those positions.  And if you do get more diversity, then there will probably be people who complain that they only ever see certain types of brides as secondary types of bloggers.  No matter what you do, you can’t please everybody.

There are, obviously, other sites that tend to have higher numbers of same-sex couples, tattooed brides, African-American brides, and brides from other countries.  Offbeat Bride is one that I have really enjoyed visiting from time to time.  But honestly, it’s unlikely that large numbers of people on Offbeat Bride are going to be concerned with your RSVP wording dilemma, or software for seating plans – that does not tend to be what they are about. 

And finally – although obviously I’m not an attorney, I see no reason why any attempt to recruit bees for diversity of any demographic factor should be illegal.  The EEO laws cover employers.  Maybe I missed something, but I didn’t believe that we were actually paying bees for their blogging contributions.  At any rate, it is not at all illegal to specifically recruit to promote or provide diversity – only the opposite.  As an employer, you can absolutely recruit from under-represented demographics, and companies do it all the time to meet their EEO goals.  What you cannot do is make employment decisions based only on race, sex, age, religion, or ethnic group, or disability.  The application of EEO type legislation to university admissions has been interesting – in several cases university admissions affirmative action programs have been ruled constitutional on the basis that ensuring diversity in education is a "compelling state interest."  The basis for a legal program seems to be that each applicant is evaluated individually and on a variety of factors, with race being only one of those factors.  I would say that if the site wants to try to recruit for diversity, it should go ahead and figure out a reasonable way to do that.
Post # 10
302 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2009

@suzanno- I think that a lot of people are pleased with the level of diversity on this site and are fully aware of the various ethnic, religous, economic and geographic and age groups on the site.  All of that said, I think that some people are just surprised with all of the diversity that there are currently NO African-American Bees and that there has not been one in awhile (at least since the 2007 post on diversity).

@mrsbee- Thank you again for starting this discussion.  I know that it can be very frustrating (at least I’m getting frustrated by it), but personally really appreciate it and even if nothing comes of it in the immediate future, I think it is a valuable dialogue to have.  I know that it is has turned into more about the lack of African-American Bees, however, I think we just happen to be the most vocal about it now, or have been afraid to voice a concern in the past. So a lot of everyday AA readers saw your post as an opportunity to address their own personal concern.

Post # 11
51 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: September 2018

I second yogigal.

I don’t blame Mrs. Bee for the lack of AA bees or applicants. We, AA women, are sadly, the least likely to marry so I could only imagine the small amount of AA blogging brides out there.  

I do think that the post was one of the more interesting ones featured on Weddingbee – it shows that we, as brides, have more things on our minds than our wedding. Besides, some people offered some great suggestions to improve the site which I think would make the site an invaluable resource.

I’m an AA bride who applied to WeddingBee and was rejected – it probably had something to do with lack of dedication.  Perhaps I should spend more time on the boards and just make myself available. Currently, I do this on my local Knot board, so maybe stretching out my wings out a bit may help.

Post # 12
2408 posts
Buzzing bee

i think the ‘bee has done a great job in the diversity aspect. i’ve been reading for a few years [when it was just ny/nj bees!] so i’ve seen the change from primarily asian american bees to what it is now, which has been a big change.

i’d be down for some aa brides. i’m mixed myself [black and korean] and i’d love to blog for wb. i’d do it now if not for that pesky "being engaged" requirement. LOL. but i’m sure they’re doing their best to present a more diverse panel of bloggers but it’s hard when you have only so much to work with. hopefully more aa blogging brides-to-be will see this and start applying.

but you know, maybe some aa brides just don’t know about the site. people are always discovering wb everyday, and some after they are married, so maybe we can help by spreading the word?

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