Article telling Millennials who can't afford kids to "just make it work"…

posted 10 months ago in No Kids
Post # 122
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79 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: November 2018

megm1099 :  OMGOSH this lady is an absolute lunatic. 

Post # 123
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1984 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2016 - Sussex, UK

sboom :  But infertility is a disease. I’m about to have IVF through the NHS. I’ve paid taxes for 15 years so I don’t feel guilt over it, there is nothing I have knowingly done that has sent us down this difficult path. 10% of the NHS budget is spent on diabetes patients, mostly type 2 and caused by lifestyle factors – I don’t hear people saying they should be denied treatment. I think infertility treatment accounts for under 0.5% of the NHS budget. It’s sad if people begrudge people having help who have a very cruel disease.

Post # 124
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1953 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

i think its unrealistic to say if you cant afford a kid dont have one, raising a child gets more and more expensive, sending that kid to college is even worse. So are you saying because i might not have the money saved up to be able to put my kid through college at this moment that i shouldnt start to begin with. And what about unexpected cost, you think your gonna raise a perfectly healthy kid, and suddenly that kid has cancer or other major concerns, and has to rely on state help or charity would you tell someone well you should have thought about that before you had kids…..

Post # 125
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1953 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

Or what about the people who do really well in life, decide to have kids then the market plummets they lose thier job and never regain the salary they once made and are suddenly relying on assistance. I mean are you really going to criticize the parents for bringing a kid into the world in those kind of scenarios… 

i think there are just TOO MANY possibilities that could happen along the way in life when raising kids to judge someones decision to have them…

Post # 126
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79 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: November 2018

Kids are always a risk. A financial risk, an emotional risk, whatever. There’s an ENORMOUS difference between: “right now I can’t put my kid through college” and “I can barely even afford to feed the kids I do have, let alone one more. But what the hell, I will figure it out once it gets here!”. You can’t live your life on: “what if’s” but you have to also have common sense. 

Post # 127
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2693 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

juicyjfan89 :  I will ask you as well then – I assume you support free and easily accessable contraception? Free and easily accessable abortion? Early and comprehensive sex education?

Or is it just that poor people shouldn’t have children but also shouldn’t be given the tools to prevent pregnancy?

Post # 128
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79 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: November 2018

Twizbe :  I absolutely support free contraception, free abortion, easy sex education. But, I’m sorry, if you cannot afford to feed your child (which I have known people who will continue to have kids without being able to afford the ones they do have) then you don’t need to be having them. To me, that should be common sense. It is absolute irresponsiblity to bring child(ren) into the world that you can’t afford to give basic neccessities to. Food, water, shelter etc. 

Post # 129
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5189 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2018

sboom :  I don’t believe that having children is a right. It’s not the government’s responsibility to help you concieve. 

It isn’t anything to do with people thinking that it is the government’s responsibility to help convince though. 

It is society supporting a system that has provisions for people in need.  The reason IVF is funded is the same reason that we don’t charge people for their ambulance call out, or for their hospital stay.  

 

The further away the NHS is from a US style system the better. 

Post # 130
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7442 posts
Busy Beekeeper

sboom :  many things people receive medical treatment for are due to lifestyle choice but no one is denying orthopedic surgery and PT for someone who chose to ski and ended up breaking their leg. People who smoke get treatment for lung disease. Infertility means your body isn’t working the way it is expected to – so why shouldn’t people get treatment for that? I’m in the US and live in one of a few states that mandate insurance coverage for IVF. I’ve paid my premiums and rarely seek medical treatment so why shouldn’t my IVF have been covered? Sure some people will do it and never get pregnant but there are people like me that have a child on the first try. The point of medical care isn’t to do the absolute bare minimum to keep people breathing – it is to improve their quality of life. And I can absolutely guarantee that my daughter improves my life and general happiness just by existing. 

Post # 131
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1574 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2019

juicyjfan89 :  If you want even more lunacy, read the comments on the post and see how much bloody support she has XD 

Fun fact: if you try to post a comment of your own, it won’t post until she reads it. Which means it won’t be often that you see  a negative response to her articles, because she can choose to not include it.

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