Post # 17
Ugh that’s annoying. I know a pp pointed out that it’s not actually sexist but I still don’t think people should assume. I would never guess that someone who said they are going to med school is going for nursing. If they are going for nursing I would expect them to say nursing school.
I work at an engineering firm. When I was hired on people automatically assumed I was the new secretary. Even though 99% of the engineers are male I think it is wrong for them to assume this. They should ask more about the position (or in your case major) before assuming based on sex.
On a funny note: my brother is going for his nursing degree and I have my engineering degree 🙂
Post # 18
I get offended because I am spending 70k/year to go to medical school and quite frankly its hard. There’s no way to quit being a doctor after going through medical school because of the loans not unless your parents are doctors themselves. And I would assume anyone going to graduate school is actually planning on working in said field after getting married considering how intense graduate school admissions are and how much they can cost. I thought we were past the age of going to school for husband hunting.
Post # 19
+1 on med school = doctor (or higher level nurse, I guess, but I would immediately go to doctor). Nursing program = nurse, especially here where we have a great nursing program at a community college (our other uni is building a med school currently).
Also, I also got the “oh, so we only have you for x months because you’ll quit after you get married, right?” Um, no? I’m the breadwinner at the moment while Fiance is in school. Also, we LIKE having two incomes.
Post # 20
well we arent over that age. I went Ivy, Law school and then MBA….and I am not working after we decide to have kids…that is my choice…and I paid….a little more than you did. You are making assumptions that everyone paying for a 100K a year education wants to work for the rest of their lives. Dont be so hard on old school folks.
There is nothing wrong with you wanting to be a super doctor with a specialty…and there is nothing wrong with also wanting to stay at home.
People used to tell women to go to school so they can have a choice. A choice to either work or stay at home. Soooooo
You can either chose to get offended or to be proud of your choices and engange in healthy conversation. To share your achievements.
And dont be so tough on those who decide to stay at home…there is nothing wrong with it.
Post # 21
@CrazyCatLady13: yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! Thank you for this post! When I was in med school people said that to me all the time but NEVER to my Fiance. I would say I was in med school and they said “oh…so you’re going to be a nurse??” Then to him, they would say “Oh doctor, huh?? Cool!” Even now, we work together in a practice and people ALWAYS assume I am either his assistant or a receptionist or secretary. It is soooo annoying!!!!!!!
Post # 22
Where do you live? This may be a regional thing if the people you’re talking to don’t know a lot of young female doctors. I’m getting my PhD in neuroscience and people either think I’m a clinical psychologist or a neurosurgeon. I just say “something like that” unless I actually care if this person knows what I do.
Post # 23
to me, med school = doctor, nursing school = nursing, dental school = dentist and i usually hear about trade schools for dental hygienist but i’m not sure if that’s totally accurate. i would never assume based on someone’s gender. i know male nurses and female doctors. people need to stop being so sexist.
Post # 24
@CrazyCatLady13: There’s no way to quit being a doctor after going through medical school because of the loans not unless your parents are doctors themselves.
What? There are people who make good money who aren’t doctors.
Post # 25
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with staying at home but I don’t see how I can conceivably do it with ~300k in loans. My Fiance is in IT and does not make nearly enough to help me pay that off in addition to his student loans. I feel like the underlying assumptions of saying that I’ll be staying at home after getting married is that my husband must earn significantly more than so that he can be the sole provider and that I even want kids. Even if I stayed at home after paying off my loans, we would go from an income well in the six figures to about 80k a year, and I don’t see why that makes sense. Why can’t my Fiance be the one who’s asked if he’ll stay at home? His income will barely make a dent in mine once I am a full fledged doctor. It’s a sexist assumption to think that the woman will be the one staying at home.
Urgh, that must be awfully awkward for both of you. And I am always surprised that people can’t come up with something other than nurse/doctor, what about physical therapist, physician assistant, occupational therapist, etc…
Post # 26
lol… medical school = doctor. DUH. Assuming you’re going to be a nurse is just stupidity and sexism.
Post # 27
That came from most other students who are at my medical school who don’t have to take out loans have parents that are both doctors themselves. I didn’t mean to say that other professions don’t make money, just in this instance about 90% of students who’s parents paid for them are also doctors.
Post # 29
Are the comments coming from people who are older than you or your own age? If they’re coming from people older than you, I would be curious to know if the response would change if you said, “I’m in med school,” as opposed to “medical school.” The reason I’m saying this is that sometimes people associate certain terms with certain things. I am older, and I grew up hearing, “So and so is going to med school,” and my immediate response, without even thinking about it, would be “doctor” not “nurse.” Although I still would think “doctor” if someone said he or she is in medical school, I’m wondering if hearing the formal word may cause some people’s brains to go immediately in another direction that then causes their thoughts to pass through a different filter, one that potentially is gender biased. I have no idea if this is the case; I’m just curious.
Post # 30
@CrazyCatLady13: If someone says medical school to me, it means they’re going to be a medical doctor. Un medècin, even. I’m sorry you’re experiencing this ignorance and prejudice. I don’t think you need to be any more clear to indicate you’re going to be a doctor. I’ve never heard anyone refer to a nursing programme as medical school. The only answer is that it’s an assumption due to gender.
If you really care, perhaps you can shift to saying “I’m studying medicine.” If that doesn’t work, switch to “I’m studying to be a doctor.” If they ask “of what” say “I’m getting my MD.” That is, if you want to. You don’t need to change anything about what you do or say because of others’ ignorance. But, a final suggestion would be:
CrazyCatLady13: I’m in medical school.
Ignorant Rube: Oh you’re going to be a nurse?
CrazyCatLady13: No, I’m going to be a woman doctor, and still hot like 13 on House. Big Whoop, wannafightaboutit?
Post # 31
Yup! We even wear white coats and people still don’t get it! I am a doctor people! Maybe it’s because I am fairly young as well, who knows but it’s pretty annoying.