Post # 32
@marjojo: “I don’t see the difference between cooking turkey breast at home and refrigerating it and eating it the next day, and deli meat. Why isn’t that also potentially contaminated?”
Because you know how long it’s been heated at which temperature, who touched it after it was cooked, and how long it’s been sitting in your fridge. Also, you don’t use the same cutting machine to cut several different kinds of meat in a short time. They might wipe the blades after every use at the deli, but they certainly don’t clean and desinfect them thoroughly every time. So if the guy before you buys roast beef that happens to be contaminated, and they cut your order of turkey breast right after him, guess what happens?
If you have a microwave available where you eat lunch, you can always pack frozen microwave meals. No work at all. Or prepare and pack your lunch the night before. Or make a large batch of stew on the weekend and freeze it in portions.
Post # 33
FWIW, my doctor says it is fine to eat deli meat but I haven’t since I heard about the listeria thing. Maybe you can try Kosher meats since kosher factories have a LOT more oversight than non-kosher. Just a random thought.
Post # 34
@marjojo: Honestly, I bring lean cusines and a fruit and a veggie for my lunches. I know that a lot of people won’t agree with the preservatives in the lean cuisine, but I’m with you – I need something quick and easy that I don’t have to think about or prepare when I’m packing my lunch in the a.m.
Post # 35
My understanding is that the major concern with rare steak is parasites which may be in the meat. If you freeze it before cooking (or buy it frozen) then you can have it rare since freezing kills the parasites inside and searing kills any bacteria on the outside. Same with sushi.
Ground meat is a different story altogether since the bacteria that may be present on the outside of a whole cut gets spread around, so you just have to cook that through.
Oh, fwiw, a life-saver for me was finding a source of pasteurized eggs so I could have my poached and over-easy eggs in the morning while pregnant, yum!
Soft cheeses, well, you have to trust that whomever made and packaged the cheese had a perfectly clean facility, and even really well-meaning and nice people can have a bacteria problem at their facility. Given the number of recalls we hear about (I just heard one about listeriosis the other day for something) I choose not to risk it and instead enjoy some nice hard cheeses or a fondue.
Fish, my midwife gave me a really handy little card I can tuck in my purse that breaks down common fish you’d see on a menu or in the market into three categories: 1) eat as much as you want, 2) eat about once a week, and 3) avoid totally. Pretty easy to follow!
Post # 36
To be honest, I think this food thing is over the top. I still eat sushi, just from reputable fresh places, with sushi grade salmon, and only once a month or even less.
Post # 37
@Nickles9911: freezing does NOT kill all parasite eggs, just so you know.
The whole we’ve been doing it for centuries thing bugs me because the world is a different place now than it was hundreds or even tens of years ago. Think of all of the ways in which our world is different. When my parents were born, my grandparents weren’t guzzling diet coke with aspartame everyday, eating food that had been on a shelf for 6 months preserved and then flavor-enhanced with MSG, or eating produce heavily laden with pesticides and Groomsmen foods. I’m not saying these things are necessarily evil or that those are the main problems, but hopefully you get my point that our world is completely different and we have a lot of factors that humans have not had to deal with until recently. In 1950, the concept of antibiotic resistant pathogens didn’t exist. Half of the adult population didn’t take one or more prescription drugs daily. 1/3 of all adults weren’t obese. Humans have changed, our environment has changed, and our food has changed. All of these are unknowns really at this point. If you decide a glass of wine or deli meat is worth the risk, then great! But we shouldn’t kid ourselves by saying its no different than humans throuout time. It’s apples to oranges, IMO.