Has anyone had the experience of asking for prices, only to hear higher prices quoted when the word "wedding" is mentioned? I’m wondering if it’s worth hiding the fact that it’s my wedding when I’m getting estimates for hair and makeup at salon. When I go into get my hair trial at the salon, I’m worried about the placement of my veil. How do I handle this? Do I whip it out at the end after I’ve already paid? 😉
Do you want the hair salon to help you place your veil? If so, you need to let them know.
As a wedding photographer, it makes me mad when clients do that to me ("forget" to mention the word wedding). We legitimately charge more for weddings because they require more work and involvement from us. We’ve never had anyone fool us until the last minute, but it’s just irritating for clients to be sneaky like that.
I imagine it’s the same thing for the hair salon. If they are just plain doing your hair, fine. But if they need to take an extra wedding step, as in helping you deal with a veil, then pay them for it.
I agree and disagree with Salty. I totally think that things like photographers (what do they tell you they want you to do for that 4-8 hours if not a wedding? That’s just weird.) need to know it’s a wedding because of extra effort etc. But, caterers and florists are putting in the same amount of effort to make a centerpiece or a fruit tray, etc. no matter what it’s for. Same with venues. Some have wedding pricing that is more than regular event pricing, but the same services are offered. That is not cool to me.
I’ve heard "cocktail party," "family gathering," etc. We do events other than weddings, so I’m not usually surprised to hear them, but it eventually becomes obvious.
And I think we’re saying the same thing. Essentially, if the vendor you’re thinking about duping has to put in more work because it’s a wedding, don’t mislead them. And don’t assume that you know when every vendor has to put extra "wedding" effort forward, either.
Another thing to keep in mind is that this can really get you into trouble. We have a clause in our contract that says we can back out of photographing the event if we find out things are different than you made them seem (the event is in a remote location, is not a cocktail party, and is actually a wedding, porn movie, whatever). It’s a pretty drastic move, and I have no intentions of ever actually doing that to someone who just left off the word wedding, but you better believe we’re going to be mad that you lied, and you’re going to have to pay a fair amount just like the rest of our clients.
Anyway, I’ve said a lot…and I know it’s probably a LOT more simple for a hairdresser (what leisuregirl asked about in the first place) but it’s food for thought.
My brother was calling around for bands for a family reunion (really my wedding) – he often got different prices than when I called and said "wedding." We ended up going a different direction – but I thought his experience was interesting.
I decided I’m not going to whip out the veil 🙂 at the end but someone else suggested that I ask for estimates without specifying the event, and then ask for bridal rates. I just did this at one salon and all they could say to justify the extra cost was that the bridal hair require extra attention. Mind you I did not mention any specifics (hair style, hair accessories). One knottie had a similar experience when negotiating a group rate at an inn. While the normal rates were stated at 79-99 depending on the room, that quote jumped to 109 when the "w" word was introduced. She had her brother, a financial advisor negotiate a group rate at an inn. He told the inkeeper that he would be bringing a business group in and that some of them would be bringing their families since they were going to be gathering in such a beautiful area of the country. He got a rate of $79 per room and a contract stating so.
Let’s just say, I’m skeptical and feeling a bit disgusted by the elevated cost related to anything bridal or wedding.
Obviously for photography, that’s entirely different and it would be impossible to avoid identifying the event. But when the services are to be identical, I just thinking it’s price gouging when the costs are higher.
I think for hair, considering your hair is going to hold up all day, it’s good for them to know. and besides… only brides get their hair and makeup done as early in the day as we do, so they’ll know something is up 😉
Anyway, I was really pleased with how secure my updo was, yet it wasn’t crunchy and didn’t feel like a helmet.