(Closed) Bali getaway?

posted 6 years ago in Travel
Post # 4
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Bumble Beekeeper

Here are some reviews for you

http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowTopic-g294226-i7220-k3301288-Has_anyone_used_the_BALI_GETAWAYS_vouchers-Bali.html

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1420496

I read some of the reviews (because who doesn’t like a good cheap Bali getaway) and the whirlpool ones pretty much say scam (even list the trader and his previous scam names) and the reviews on trip advisor are all from one time posters which makes me think fakes! Normally on trip advisor if it is a good deal lots of people take it up and review it (as in regulars).

When we go to Bali we usually use Specialist Travel or a travel agent because lets face it, it is pretty cheap there anyways! You might also want to check out the deals on cudo, our deal, living social and scoopon etc They have had some good deals lately but definately check out trip advisor for the reviews of the hotel that is included on the deal- soemtimes they can be crappy!

Post # 6
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

The “2 hour seminar” thing means you’ll be getting a timeshare pitch. It’s VERY common to see legitimate, super-cheap rates or free stays in conjunction with timeshare pitches, so this may actually be on the level.  I have been through a couple timeshare pitches myself (I do it to get hotel points, honestly if the timing is right and I’ve got nothing else to do, I don’t mind having some sales douche bother me for a few hours if I get the right amount of goodies in return). They are not for everyone.

I can go into more detail if you want/need, but the basics are, you’ll be asked to fill in a bunch of forms including a lot of personal/financial information; you’ll have to watch a video or hear a speech about the benefits of owning a timeshare; they WILL have a package that fits every budget; even if you say “Not interested” and “no budget” they will ramble on about how it actually works out to be cheaper than paying for a traditional hotel for a week’s vacation every year. They will use all your answers on your forms and everything you say during the “presentation” to try to sell to you, and they will be very aggressive. At some point they will take you on a (probably very long) tour of the resort and they’ll introduce you to any Owners along your way. They will show you the posh Penthouse-level units and they kind of try to make you feel a little inferior since your room is only on the 3rd floor, then they danlge the “you too could own a share of this penthouse, wouldnt it be great to entertain here” in front of you.  They sometimes work in teams of two salespeople, kind of like good cop/bad cop, and they will usually try to pit husband and wife against each other (like if the wife admits she sees some financial sense in what they are saying, they will start subtly talking down to the husband and treating him like he’s a dummy not to agree with the wife).  They may also bring in a “supervisor” or “manager” who has some “super secret, only available today” deal with a very low price tag (but you get very little for that package). They will try everything under the sun to get you to buy something, anything, and it is VERY hard to get out of there without having to take out a mortgage (oh and the financing they offer is borderline loan shark, 29% on a real estate note!!), And no matter how many times you ask, they will not give you private time as a couple to discuss. There is always a salesperson sitting with you.

If they are quoting you 2 hours then your “presentation” will probably be more like 3 hours, and it’s very intense; it’s not like you can book a 10am appointment and still have most of the day to go play on the beach.  You will generally be drained when you’re done, and whenever I do a timeshare pitch I pretty much count that day as a “dead” day.  Room service and TV will most likely be all you’re in the mood for after that, and maybe a shower to wash the dirty sales stink off of you. Plus you will probably have a few more days to your stay in the resort and you’ll run into your salespeople a couple more times, which is kind of uncomfortable.

Personally, I would NEVER do a timeshare pitch as part of my honeymoon— it just makes me feel a little dirty, and wastes a perfectly good day of vacation for me— but I’ve got no problem doing it on a random weekend to get a few free nights in Vegas and a pile of Hilton points.  It can be very lucrative. But your thresholds might be higher or lower, and only you can decide if that’s worth it to you.

 If you decide to do it, I would make absolutely sure to research timeshare ownership in general, your resort in specific, and private financing options so you do not get sucked in. It really is a hard sell, they play on your emotions, and they also wear you down. They are very good at spinning the facts and making you question your own judgement. Make sure your husband is on board and knows what to expect, too.

Post # 8
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Bumble Beekeeper

@Toastymama:  Be careful often the resorts are not quite what they seem and are normally in the middle of nowhere (to make you use their facilities etc). I had a look at the website and they don’t say the exact villa/hotel- just a selection of villas/hotels. I would be wary just because of the huge price difference you have received for quotes for something similar- no one gives something away for free and the difference between $1000 and $4000 is a big one.

And I agree with @fishbone:  the 2 hrs will more likely be 3-4hrs and they will bug you like crazy. We stayed at a timeshre in Hawaii and we declined the free gift for timeshare demo. They kept hassling us over and over.

 Have you tried contacting hotels with villas directly? Often prices are cheaper on their websites. Also there are a couple of reputable villa sites that have been reviewed on trip advisor.

Just a side note- I often find those personal plunge pool villas a bit of a waste of money because the pool is tiny- better to get a great room or go to a smaller botique hotel where you can get the pool pretty much to yourself anyways.

Post # 10
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Bumble Beekeeper

@Toastymama:  No worries 🙂 You will love Koh Samui- make sure you do a snorkeling tour on one of the nearby Islands- so worth it and if you want to splurge just hire a speed boat yourselves rather than do a group tour.

We got engaged in Thailand (Hua Hin) so I love it there- the people are so friendly and the accommodations are beautiful and cheap for teh luxury. I am sure you will have a ball.

Post # 11
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Wannabee
  • Wedding: February 2012

we honeymooned in bali and loved every minute.  i’m dreaming about it now which is why i write. booked everything independently.  stayed half time beach, half time rainforest.  went with grand hyatt nusa dua (fabulous for jet lag!), ubud hanging gardens (was limited special $160 on jetsetter.com!!!!! so watch those members only sites), and splurged on villa shamballa in payogan for a few days.  

unsure if you’re beach only, but we like a mix of adventure and beach, so bali was it for us. and we could live in luxury (or at least, our normal folks version of it!) for moderate price. 

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