Post # 1
A few of our local malls recently announced that they will be banning the use of any tobacco products on their property (even the e-ciggs!). Obviously smoking has been banned indoors for years but starting at the end of May, smoking or the use of any tobacco products will be strictly prohibited anywhere on the grounds (including parking lots). While I hate the smell of cigarette smoke and do everything in my power to not be around it, this seems extreme to me. I get where they’re coming from as far as smokers congregating around entrances since non-smokers are forced to walk through their disgusting cloud but enforcing a ban for the entire property is a bit much. I’m a non-smoker so ultimately I could really care less what they do since it won’t impact me at all but I imagine smokers are having a real issue with this, especially mall employees. If they require a smoke break, they’ll have to get in their cars and drive off premises which I assume would be a challenge to do in the typical 15 minute break they’re allowed. Even smoking in your own car will be banned (though, I’m still not sure how that will be enforced). It’s not just our local malls but about 15 or so spanning through NY and MA.
What are your thoughts? Especially if you happen to shop at one of the malls impacted (Pyramid Management Group malls), would you take your business elsewhere if you feel that your rights are being infringed upon?
Post # 3
all of our malls have that ban for over a year now.. a lot of people gripped and they have designated areas out side.
I dont smoke but a lot of the family does…. it hasnt effected us either way.. but i do have to say im glad for it.
also most of the resturants here also have that ban…i would say at least 75% or more that are NON bar types
Post # 4
Yeah… I wouldn’t be too thrilled. There’s no smoking allowed near the entrances to buildings where I live and I think that’s fair, but to say I can’t smoke anywhere in the parking lot or in my own car is taking it a bit too far IMO.
Post # 5
I have asthma, so being in places with a lot of smoke is more than just annoying to me, it can cause me to wheeze for days. That said, even just walking through a thick cloud of it for a few seconds doesn’t make that happen! It’s only prolonged exposure that does it.
There’s really no reason the mall couldn’t set up a designated smoking area, and then people like me, who really hate walking through it, even if it doesn’t hurt anything, would just know to use a different entrance. No big deal at all!
That said, I hate outdoor malls that allow smoking because I always seem to get stuck walking behind huge groups of smokers. :/ In that situation, I could totally see banning it.
Post # 6
Ugh. Yes, I’d go somewhere else if I knew I wouldn’t be allowed to even smoke in my car on property. That’s ridiculous.
I understand banning the smokers from the entrances, but the whole property? That’s too much.
Post # 7
I think it should be banned everywhere! I hate it so much. I hate that people do it right outside of everywhere- so that you have to get covered in their smoke going in or out. I wish there were more restrictions here.
Post # 8
My best friendneighbor is going to school part time right now. She and I are both smokers. I actually am more of smoke when I drink kind of girl. She smokes regularly. On her school campus they do not allow smoking at all either. Not even in the parking lot. They have signs up that show where the school campus technically ends so that if youw ant to smoke you can go there. Lets just say you have to get in your car and drive there if you want to get to a place where you want to smoke.
I kind of feel like it is a bit extreme. I mean I get the whole indoor smoking ban. I agree with it even. But outdoors within a reasonable distance of areas with lots of people shouldnt be a problem. And are you telling me that if im in my own car and have an ash tray in there too (to avoid littering) that I cannot sit in my own vehicle and smoke if i want to?! that just seems a bit unreasonable. You do not have to agree with me smoking but its my choice until it becomes illegal. and even then it would still be my choice.
Post # 9
I’d go somewhere else if you couldn’t even smoke outside. I thought it was stupid when you no longer were allowed to smoke in diners and had to go outside to smoke at the bar… It really changed coffee and cigarettes post bar nights lol we also tend to go to open roof bars now too where they still allow smoking inside.
Why ban ecigs if they are just water vapor… I don’t get that at all.
Now I need a cigarette and I only have 1 left… =/
Post # 10
Most of our city is smoke free – restaurants, bars, malls, etc. but I do agree that not being able to do it in your car is a bit much. My mom is a smoker and can just walk outside to it. I think that’s a perfect compromise.
Post # 11
See, my asthma is so bad that I just have to be talking to someone who has smoked in the past 5 minutes and I’ll start wheezing. I totally agree with this rule, but they should create one designated area with a shelter for smokers to go to.
Post # 12
Eh, it is the malls property and they can ban smoking if they want to. My office building where I go to when in office had this in force until recently. If there are shelters on the property then they can use those and only those. Personally I wish smoking would be banned period. It is disgusting habit. (And my Darling Husband smokes and is not allowed to smoke in the house)
Post # 13
I like this ban. I also have acute asthma and hate that to enter some malls you have to walk by clusters of people & employees smoking right near the entrance and inhale a lung full of their 2nd smoke. If people want to smoke they should do it in a place where their 2nd hand smoke isnt bothering other people who dont want to breathe that in.
Post # 14
I agree with having a designated area for smokers, rather than banning it completely on the property. That way patrons don’t have to walk through a group of people smoking as they try to enter the mall, but people still have a place to go if they want a smoke break.
Post # 15
In WA state you can’t even smoke within 25 feet of a public area or you could get a ticket, it’s been that way for a long time now.
Post # 16
If they ban it from the mall parking lot where do the employees go for a smoke break? Will they start giving them longer breaks to go home and have a cigarette? lol I know I need a cig break while I’m working due to the stress level (I work as a cashier at a mall store).