Post # 1
Anyone else feeling that groomsmen attire is such a hassle??! I dont know much about proper formal wear, and am not the most traditional person around.
So heres the story: Me and my fiance went to the local Moores and picked out the BLACK by Vera Wang tux, and decided to go with no vest and a black tie. The groomsmen will have the same tux with a coral tie that I bought for them. I thought this was fine until the BM who is fiances brother made some comment that if they are not wearing vests they should just wear their own black suits. Fiance was like no, because we still want them all the same, and I didn’t think too much of it until a few days ago fiance was like maybe he would like a vest. I pry a little into where this change of mind comes from, because I’m pretty sure it’s not him. Turns out his family keeps on making comments about how much better a vest would look. I’m ok with getting vests if he wants it, not ok with his family making up his mind for him. Little bit of background, the wedding is outdoors, in august, in a tent. The groomsmen are not paying for their tuxes. I thought they would all be happy to have one less layer haha!
So my question is: is it weird to not wear a vest with a Vera Wang tux? Did you groom where a tux without a vest? Can I see pics?
Post # 3
@mrsqueenb: The purpose of wearing a cummerbund or vest with a tuxedo jacket is only to hide that small piece of shirting fabric that can be visible between the jacket button and the waistband of the pants like in this pic.
If they don’t wear a vest just make sure that there jackets are closed properly for pics.
Post # 4
Vests CAN look good. Unfortunately, when they have a color (i.e. anything not white/ivory/black) I tend to think “prom” not “wedding.” FI is totally into his clothing, so I can tell you that he’s wearing a black tuxedo, white shirt, and black bow tie. No vest or cumberbund. He’s going to buy it and have it tailored to actually fit him.
We are not, however, insisting that each groomsman wear matching tuxedos. They can wear their own (at least 2 of the 5 own them) or rent something that fits the criteria mentioned above. Much like ‘bees often encourage their bridesmaids to wear coordinating dresses that flatter them, FI wants his groomsmen to look good in tuxedos that fit, even if they’re not identical. The identical phalanx of groomsmen comes, I think, from the fact that these days very few men own tuxedos as part of their formal wardrobe and its easier to have them all rent from the same supplier.
Post # 5
I think you are perfectly good with no vest! If you are paying for the tuxes, then you have the final say so (not the other’s family). The photo above looks just as nice with only ties (you’d only see a smidgen of the vest).
Post # 6
@julies1949: thanks for the advice, I hadn’t realized that before, but it totally makes sense!
@ArtDecoDC: I guess another reason I didn’t go with the vests was because I don’t particularly care for colored vests either. Maybe I’ll look into black or white vests though, or just stick with the original plan! Fiances brother was the only one with a suit, so buying the others their own suit, or asking them to buy one was a lot more expensive.
Post # 7
If you’re interested in rules, a tuxedo must be worn with a waist covering, which is a vest, or a cummerbund. The vest should normally be black, but can be white. Cummerbund should be black. Ties should be black, period. You can go without a waist covering if you do double breasted jackets on the tuxedos. Those are black tie rules; wedding rental tuxedos are generally a whole different beast from black tie.
If you want to know more about the traditional rules:
http://www.blacktieguide.com – this site has all the info you need.