(Closed) Bees, need advice in dealing with photographer conflict

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Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2016

citygirl828:  My photographer has the same wording in her contract. It made sense to me…

Post # 17
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Buzzing bee

The photographer is worried about artistic conflicts and working with someone else.  You will have to draw up some very specific boundaries to include in the contract.  Make is so it is more of a trade off than having two photographers for your whole event.  

I would have the family photographer do the rehersal dinner and the formal bridal party and family pics after the wedding.  THATS IT.  give him and a guest a seat at a table and ask him to enjoy the celebration since he is close to the family. He will probally have his camera with him anyway and get some good pics of family like any other wedding guest. 

Have your Artsy photographer do all of the getting ready shots, a first look if you are having one, ceremony and reception.  

If you explain to him that this family photographer is not going to be shooting at the same time he may be willing to agree.  After all this will give him about an hour break where he can relax and he is still getting paid for something he usually has to do.   

Post # 18
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

This is definitely a very common clause. Wedding photog here and I’ve had really hard experiences with very intrusive friend and family photographers, and no matter how I shoot around them they have ruined certain images that I’m known for and tried to deliver to the bride & groom.

I’d explain to your dream photog that your parents want straightforward portraits and ask if he’d be willing to add on a second shooter OR have a set aside time to do family photos, and edit those first and get them out to your family. I photograph a lot of weddings where the parents have one vision, the bride and groom have a different one. I accommodate it by having the posed session with all the family and friends and that makes both people happy.

Post # 19
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

citygirl828:  Are you concerned about hurting the feelings of this family member? Why not say something along the lines of, “Uncle John, while we are so appreciative of your offer to photograph the family, we want you to attend the wedding as a guest and enjoy yourself! Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness, though!”

Even a good photojournalistic wedding photog will ordinarily snap the family portraits and keep moving.

We hired a photographer who does beautiful photojournalistic work but also does some of the casually posed family shots because clients families want those shots, too. Your photographer should be able to do the family shots and the artistic shots.

Post # 20
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

citygirl828:  Speaking as a wedding photographer, I can tell you that any full-time professional wedding photographer worth their weight has this same clause in their contract…myself included. I too won’t bend on it. Honestly, while Aunt Sally with her Canon Rebel is a distraction someone else acting like a professional photographer is an HUGE disruption to my workflow because more often than not they are very much in my way throught the day.  The clause is not “no pro can be in attendance” it’s that “no pro can be in attendance and also photographing as if they are the hired photographer for the wedding”. 

I’ve heard so many times “oh they just like taking snapshots we’ll make sure they stay out of your way”. Nope, never happens. I can’t tell you how many otherwise awesome shots I have ruined by guests. The problem is that guest cameras are getting out of control lately. Long gone are the days that grandma had her little film camera snapping a few photos here and there. Now literally every guest has a camera/phone glued to their hands – and are simply convinced their first kiss photo is going to be the most amazing thing to hit the internet. It blows my mind, because what are they going to do with it? Put it on facebook and tag the couple. That’s it. Was it worth ruining my shot they PAID me for by having your iPhone sticking out into the isle? Nope, but unfortunately it happens at basically every wedding now. 

I don’t allow anyone else (be it a cell phone, DSLR, or someone acting like a pro) to shoot at the same time I’m doing family formals, bridal party, or bride/groom photos. I frequently stop shooting when it happens because otherwise I have an entire family shot of no one looking at my camera and instead looking at Aunt Sally. When I have a whole gallery of the family looking at Aunt Sally instead of me (whom they’ve paid!!) they aren’t mad at Aunt Sally, they’re mad at me! 

Post # 21
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: September 2016

Could you have the relative take the family photos at the rehearsal dinner or post-wedding brunch (if you’re having them) instead?? The family will all be together, you’ll probably be less stressed than on the actual day and it won’t interfere with your professional pics. You could spread the word to family ahead of time so they know to coordinate outfits if they want or whatever. 

Post # 23
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2015

What if this family photographer took family photos at a seperate location before the wedding? If that will fit into your day it might work out. 

Post # 24
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

citygirl828:   You cannot, ever, please everyone!  You have found a professional photographer who suits you and your Fiance.  My advice would be to work with, not against that person, and also to allow the second shooter to do his or her regular work – no doubt they have a routine and it works for them.

With luck your family photographer can do portraits or candid shots either before or after the reception.

Post # 25
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2015

You are never going to keep everyone happy I wouldn’t pass on my dream photographer just so your family can have ok photos quickly

Post # 26
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2010

+1 everything Starfish said

 

I also have this clause in my contract. I have many photos that were ruined by a guest in the wedding. I don’t think you are going to find a great photographer who doesn’t have this clause in their contract. I would talk to your family and let them know that the photographer you want doesn’t allow other pro photographers to shoot along the main photographer.

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