Bees who have done IVF: advice question

posted 9 months ago in TTC
Post # 2
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Is there a strong reason for the genetic testing? I only ask because when we were starting the process they did say that a fresh transfer had a better chance than a frozen one (I was 32 at the time for context) 

I personally would go ahead with what you have and then cross the second child bridge when you come to it. It could be that after 1 child you don’t want any more. Also I know a woman who at 42 finally got pregnant with twins after 4 rounds of IVF. They had both male and femal factor. She had an oops pregnancy 6 months after the twins were born. That baby is now almost 8 months old.  These things can and do happen.

 

Post # 3
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

Hmmm that is a tough one, Bee. If it were me me and we got a blast I would probably do a fresh transfer of it and take our chances!gftg I think PGS testing would be helpful if you had multiple embryos and wanted to know which to transfer but if you just have one then I would take the chance on a fresh transfer. If it doesn’t work I would jump into another cycle. We did IVF with ICSI due to MFI and our fresh transfer was a chemical pregnancy but our FET stuck. And now we are somehow pregnanct naturally and by surprise. My friend who went through IVF also had severe MFI and only got 1 blast from like 30 eggs retrieved. They did a fresh transfer and it stuck, resulting in their baby boy. Best of luck to you bee wih whatever you decide! I hope that embie makes it to blast!

Post # 4
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Sugar bee

Hey bee,

I’m so sorry you’ve had to go down the IVF route, I know how tough it can be.

We have been trying for almost 2 years and did a round of IVF last October (Our main issue is that I have one fallopian tube and have “PCO”), so I have been looking into ways to increase our chances of a succesful IVF cycle since then.

Firstly, are you on any supplements right now? Having only one embryo make it to day 5 myself (and a failed FET to boot), I bought a copy of “It starts with the egg” and as reccomended for those doing IVF am taking 300mg ubiquinol (CoQ10) a day, along with Vitamin C, D and E. I WAS on CoQ10 for a bit leading up to our IVF cycle but our clinical nurse said I didn’t need it since I’m 32 – so I stopped taking it 🙄 I’m taking it no matter what now in the lead up to IVF #2 in the hopes we get better results next round.

Taking your circumstances into consideration, and if you would ideally  like more than 1 child, I would aim to do another round of IVF ASAP to get more embryos banked for testing – hopefully giving you more potential FETs in the future.

If you ever feel you need some extra support through all of this, feel free to join the monthly TTC infertility threads here. The ladies there are incredibly helpful and supportive.

Best of luck with it all xx

Post # 5
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2016

Personally I would no do PGS testing on one embryo.  We have severe MFI and did IVF with ICSI.  We did retreival last November and are stimming now for our first FET.  We didn’t do testing.  We only wound up with 4 day 5 embryos out of 15 mature eggs that were retreived.  

My dr. explained to me when we were still trying to decide if we would do testing, that it is more sensible to test when you have multiple embryos.  The reason he said is because then you can choose which one to transfer.  But with only one I wouldn’t not test.  I also would not do another IVF round, but that is just me.  I’d wait and see if your one sticks.  I really hope it does.  For a second child I also feel like you can cross that bridge when you get there.  

Good Luck!!!!

Post # 6
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: January 2017

I’d skip the testing and just do the fresh transfer on the one egg. I just takes 1. Good luck.

Post # 7
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Bumble Beekeeper

tranceparentssee :  I’d also skip the testing and tranfer fresh if possible. Did either of you screen positive for something that would be important to test an embryo for? 

As everyone says it only takes one. We had 4 embryos and our fresh transfer took and we froze the other 3. Given your age I’d be more concerned with getting pregnant first, seeing how parenthood treats you, and then worrying about future kids.  

Post # 8
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2016

tranceparentssee :  I would either go ahead and transfer this little one WITHOUT testing or do another cycle and test then after you get multiple embryos.  If it were me personally, I would go ahead and transfer between those two options.

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

I’d freeze that one if you can, and then do another round for retrieval. If that one won’t make it to freeze, I’d do a fresh transfer, though. You can freeze without doing testing. I don’t think testing is worth it in your case, and i have my doubts about PGS testing anyways. 

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2015 - Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel

tranceparentssee :  I can give you 100% honest adviec because I am in a similar situation to you. 

I just did an IVF stim cycle for PGS testing with my egg retrieval last Wednesday. I am 28 and had good AMH/FSH levels but for some reason I just did not respond to the meds. (My doctor told me I have “old ovaries”. Gee- thanks for that…) Anyways, I grew 5 follicles and we debated cancelling our cycle too but in the end we went for it. They only got 3 mature eggs and 1 fertilized. So we also had to decide what to do but in the end we decided to send it for testing because I didn’t want to waste the time or money on going back to transfer it, having it fail and then having to start all over again. Today, I got the day 6 blast report that although it made it through biopsy, it’s “below average” quality – so decently unlikely to result in a pregnancy – but we will see what PGS says. 

In your case I would probably roll the dice and try to transfer your little fighter too before moving on to another retrieval. The financial aspect also really stressed me out more than my husband so it was hard not to take that into account. 

Can I ask where you are doing your IVF? I am from Canada but I flew to a clinic in Arizona that had quite low fees and great success rates 🙂

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2015 - Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel

littleanchor :  Do you mind if I ask you about your doubts about PGS testing? I’m just curious what the reasons would be to not do it (other than the expense) 🙂

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

MissKristi :  It’s a fairly new practice. There are some studies indicating mixed results about the accuracy. I’ve heard of people implanting embryos considered abormal and going on to have a healthy pregnancy and baby.  I’ve also heard of people in other groups getting an embryo re-tested and getting different results. I just don’t think there is enough data to back up the testing. Maybe I’d consider if I got A LOT of eggs, but I seriously wonder whether women have eliminated embryos that could have been succesful if they had been implanted. 

Post # 13
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: December 2014

tranceparentssee :  another vote for fresh transfer and skip the testing. I had 2 embryos and one was suitable for freezing, and the other wasn’t. I was only planning on banking embryos as I was in a relatively new relationship but the second embryo was deemed lesser quality and would have been thrown out essentially. I get teary just thinking about it, because that “lesser” quality embryo is my bright, beautiful, brilliant 4.5 month old son. I decided to chance a fresh transfer at the last minute and I’m so glad I did. Even then my doctor suggested I go for the “better” quality embryo. Well that one is in the freezer and who knows if it would have taken? I think a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush and you run the risk of damaging this embryo in the freeze/defrost process. That’s just my opinion though. Hugs to you. It’s such a stressful and emotional decision. If the fresh transfer works you have a baby! If it doesn’t, you can try again in next couple months. Best of luck xx 

also my close friend did multiple rounds of ivf. Her beautiful son is also the result of a supposedly lesser quality embryo. Her top quality ones didn’t take. 

Post # 14
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2017

I would skip the genetic testing, and I would also try to bank some more embryos before moving on to an FET.  We’ve got similar stories, I’m also 38, FSH is 10 and AMH is .62, my AFC is between 4-6.  My first retrieval we got 3 eggs, but none mature.  We switched clinics, and we are now doing mini IVF, and we are doing a 3 retrieval cycle plan.  We are 2 retrievals in with new clinic and we’ve banked 5 embryos, all frozen on day 3.

In mine and my doctor’s opinion, genetic testing when you have a very low number of embryos is not worth it.  Have you looked into mini IVF for subsequent cycles?  It’s worked much better for me, and it’s been cheaper as well.  My first failed retrieval, which was traditional IVF, cost about $15k including meds.  3 retrievals of mini IVF with meds included was about $23k for us, a significant savings, and much better results!!

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