Post # 32
@lalalyanne You go girl! When I first started working I dressed nice every day not knowing our dress code is casual. So anytime I wore a skirt or dress, someone was bound to ask me if I was going to pull a permit. Really? Like my legs would magically put a placard in my hand? I love going to my job sites in dirty jeans and boots, hard hat and orange vest in tow. I’ll crawl through pipe and sort out silt fence. I do think I get praised for being interactive and not high maintenance. What’s your secret to not getting ripped off by the car mechanics? I don’t know much about cars though. I usually send my dad in to do the business since he doesn’t take crap.
Post # 33
i used to work in a male dominated flield as a commercial fisherman.(family buisness) I found it was easier. idk why. maybe cuz im used to being around guys. most times they are pretty casual and cut me slack. I felt like I stood out in a good way. I never felt like people really …men looked down on me. I was at the bottom of the totem. deckhand. I think a lot of the guys thought i couldnt do specific jobs due to how much i could lift but when i did , it was fun to see them impressed. A lot like to teach you, like a father figure. Everyone seemed to treach me as an equal but of course after years i had to prove im not just alittle girl. There were some guys that try and hit on me but all were harmless but i didnt hurt to have my now husband in the same field. i worked fishing fr age 19- 24. Now that i work at a hospital with all girls, i find its harder. Other women expect more from you, and they dont feel the need to ever cut you some slack. I think because most the time i was used to working with guys that once i worked with all women i was intimidated. i am a nursing assistant so middle of totem??? maybe.
Post # 34
@GeorgiaBride5: #1 rule with mechanics. Don’t look scared. #2 rule ask them to SHOW you w’s “broken” any good reputable mechanic. If they won’t, just leave and go elsewhere. When they show you wrong, have a peek. Engine related things actually break and you can pretty much always see that there is a problem. In anything suspension or steering related, try to wiggle the actual part (or ask them to) if its snug and doesn’t “clank” anywhere in the mechanism, there’s a good chance its still good. If it wiggles or moves, it probably needs to get changed. #3 rule If you’re letting a mechanic fix something, tell them to leave the old part in your trunk. It belongs to you, and this way you can have a peek at it and make sure it is actually in disrepair!
Best advice is find yourself a mechanic that is a good honest mechanic! We have a VW mechanic in town and the first time I ever went in, he was honest and upfront and without even asking, brought my old parts out when I picked up the car and explained to me what was wng, what he fixed, what he paid for and a nice little list of things that need to be dealt with in the future. They’re hard to find but if you find one, stay until they die!
Those few tricks above should help you navigate through the classic male run mechanic shops though 😉
Post # 35
There are 12 of us here, 2 of us girls. Very business related atmosphere. Everyone here is created equally,no matter what their position is. I’ve been here for several years and never seen a problem with the men. Everyone is extremely outgoing and very professional.
Post # 36
Im the only female in a group/hallway of 6 older men. They treat me like Im the stupiest person there and cant think for myself Despite having my bachelors. I work in an IT/support position but do mostly research. I have gone to HR about my boss before ranging from him saying my work clothes were “too revealing” (slacks and a tee with zero cleavage) to sitting at my desk going through my computer to telling me when to use the space bar in a document (example: “write the, then space, person, space, found, space…”) yeah, its pretty terrible.
Post # 37
I don’t work there now, but I worked at Sportsman’s Warehouse, a hunting store. I worked in Archery, which was the hunting department and there were two women that worked that department, my carpool buddy and I.
I felt like I was treated fairly by my fellow co-workers. The customers were different. I was straight up told that I was going to go find a male co-worker so this customer could proceed with his business. I told him no and that I was the only one working that counter that day (Which was the truth due to a mischeduling mishap) and he walked out. Oh well.
Post # 38
@loveandapitbull: I’m an accountant in the construction industry, and I also had to deal with the awkward, “You have boobs, therefore you should be the one to cut the fruit up in the kitchen” kind of BS. The first time it happened, I just chalked it up to being a new hire, and cut up the fruit. (catered fruit/veggies/bagels on Wednesdays)
I caught on really quickly though, and let people know I was too busy doing actual work to mess around at being Susie Homemaker. Oddly enough, it was the few other women here that tried to fit me in to that role.
I ave no issues with the men. I bust my ass, bust their balls, and am capable of speaking like a sailor if it’s what it takes to get my point across. After they hear some of the things I have been known to say, they lose their ‘fear’ of what THEY can say in front of me.
ETA: I forgot the ‘totem pole’ part. I the recognized ‘go to’ person for figuring out how to solve just any problem, and was promoted to a managerial position. I’m somewhere in the middle, but I’m still one of the ‘newer’ hires, and I’m above a lot of the people that have been here for decades.
Post # 39
So I had a site visit and meeting this morning, with only men. I sat at the big boys table (wearing grubby jeans and dirty boots like them) and all I got were compliments! The owner of the project even said I’m the sunshine at the meetings. 🙂 And no they don’t flirt with me, they’re all mature grown up guys. It’s nice to be appreciated and not seen as “boobs.”
Post # 40
@GeorgiaBride5: I am also an engineer. I work with one other female engineer – and I have known her for about 10 years, we were roommates in college. Female engineers are few and far between, especially once you start getting older. I don’t come across many female engineers who are in their 30’s.
My husband is also and engineer. We met at work. He is 2 years younger than me but we have about the same amount of work experience. He recently got a raise and he now makes more than me. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve a raise, I’m just saying that our bosses give him opportunities that they don’t give me. ANd because he always “grabs the bull by the horn” with those given opportunities, they feel like he deserves more money.
I’m at peace with the whole money thing. At this point, it’s all going to the same bank account anyway. I just wish my company valued me as much as they valued my male counterpart.
Post # 41
@kelly105: That’s good insight. I have a male counterpart (I have like 2 months on him) but I swear to my grave he makes more than I do. I base this solely on his personal life, house, children, and his wife has never had a career and went back to school (school debt). It’s nice to know I’m not alone. Thanks!
Post # 42
@GeorgiaBride5: I’m in engineering too and like you prefer this environment. I find it makes for good working relationships. You would say I’m at the bottom Of the tree.
Post # 43
I guess I’m not technically working yet, but I am working on my PhD in Civil Engineering (working with concrete/developing new alternative cementitious materials). I don’t mind working with mostly guys, it definitely limits the amount of drama I have to deal with. However, I have definitely had a hard time with friendships, both at the school I did my masters and now at a different lab for PhD. I think it got worse after I got married too. No matter how much my sports knowledge/ability etc equals/exceeds that of my coworkers I never really seem to be as accepted and am often left off the invitation list for hanging out/going out. I’ve pretty much given up on having any friendships with coworkers and am working on meeting more people from my church and my gym (and honestly just enjoy spending time just me and the DH).
As far as treatment at work I feel like I am definitely respected and treated equally (or maybe thought of in higher respect – other students often come to ask me for help with their problems or training for new tests). Whether or not there was ever any reason for it I have always felt like I constantly have to prove myself though – show them all that I’m independent and not just some dumb girl. I don’t know if anyone has ever really thought that about me, but I have always, and have come to terms that I will probably always, feel like I need to work harder and be smarter than my coworkers in order to measure up and be respected.
I know that the construction industry isn’t yet as accepting as my lab though – I went to a concrete convention last year and as I was walking with another girlfriend to one of the evening parties an older man sitting right outside the room where the party was stopped us and asked if we were the strippers hired for the party. We were wearing dresses, but they were very much business professional wear, so there was absolutely no reason for him to think that. It was rather shocking – I’d heard about things like that happening (at the same convention) from other women, but never experienced it myself.
Post # 44
I am an automotive engineer. In our department I’m the only woman, aside from my assistant and the deparment admin (both of whom I brought in trying to increase the estrogen, mistake on the part of the admin..). There is another female engineer in our CA office.
The guys are all cool with me on a personal level. I talk and joke with them, but they know I expect them to keep it professional to a certain degree. I am in charge of one of our labs and I know they think I’m a prude because I do not tolerate sick jokes, sloppy dress, and hazing. It’s work, not boys’ night at the bar. I’ll tell a dick joke at the bar at 5:30, but not here.
I do feel like I’m treated differently. It’s an Asian company so women aren’t really supposed to be in the workplace, especially as engineers. I’m a bit of a curiousity for some of them, and some of them think they can just bully me. Most figure out that I’m quite capable and leave me alone once I prove myslef, but that does get old. It’s slowly changing as more and more women start working with them back home. Even with the American staff I know I have a reputation for being a bit of a buzz kill, etc, because I don’t tolerate talk of strippers and whores for company functions. THIS IS WORK. I once had to involve HR to get one of my techs to change out of a tshirt that had a bare-assed woman on a Harley on it. He argued with me that it wasn’t offensive. I don’t want to see that at work. I have to be here. If I choose to go to your biker bar I choose to put up with that.
Anyway… I think I get taken advantage of just as much as everyone else as far as pay is concerned, maybe a little bit more recently. I have advanced some but have butted heads with our admin who has the ear of our director so I’m stuck now.
As many issues as I have, I’ll take it any day over working in an office full of woman. My problems with guys I can solve rationally. My problems with girls…. are fine, until someone walks up to me and asks wth I did to our admin to make her hate me so much. Uh… get her a job?
Post # 45
I don’t see any cooks or chefs yet! Sous chef here.
That means I’m second in command of a kitchen. Mine has approx 20 employees. I definitely came across the ‘boys club’ kitchen mentality when I started out. I was 18 and looked 16, it was awful!
But I must say, I haven’t dealt with any sexism for years now. I’m still young looking (26 now) but it’s an asset now. People assume correctly that my title means I’m serious. But I do wish I came across more women in the kitchen. I generally enjoy working with lady chefs, who tend to be fairly rare. I just find I have more in common with them. We were recently looking for a new executive chef, and had 18 applicants… All men!
Post # 46
@GeorgiaBride5: I also work in a male-dominated profession, engineering as well, and I much prefer this over a female environment. Much less catty, though we do have a couple shit-stirrers around. I am treated very equally, treated like one of the guys really, and I get along well with all my coworkers especially because I also have a relatively masculine sense of humor. I am the bottom of the totem pole, but there are only 3 people between me and the company CEO (it’s a large company).
We have a women’s lunch once a month, and when I was first invited to it, I felt out of place because of how little interaction with women that I have XD