(Closed) BEES WITH PLATINUM RINGS!

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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

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bquakkel :  I have a platinum e-ring, which I’ve had for over 3 years and a platinum wedding band, which I’ve had for just over 1.5 years. Honestly, I haven’t noticed much scratching at all. I clean my rings at home, but scratching has yet to be an issue. My rings also have a matte finish, rather than the typical “shiny” finish – so not sure if that makes a difference!

FWIW, my husband has a 14K white gold ring and it’s SUPER scratched already. We’re looking to re-order the same ring in platinum within the next few years.

Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception/The Gallery

Two things about platinum vs. white gold: 

1) white gold will need to be re-dipped in rhodium (what makes it “white”) fairly frequently. This has to be done by a jeweler. 

2) While both will scratch and patina, when platinum scratches/dings, it doesn’t lose the metal, it is just displaced. With white gold, you acutally lose mass. So, when polishing, the platinum retains its weight while white gold will, over time, wear down. 

As for your original question, I’ve worn my e-ring everyday for over ~20 months and my wedding band for 4 months. Both have some slight “softening” of the shine but they certainly don’t look scratched/dinged/worn. I don’t anticipate having to have them polished for some time (years). 

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 2010

Yes, it does develop a patina particulary in high wear areas. The patina is actually made up of many tiny “scratches” that tend to blend together so they aren’t individually visible and instead lead to a “satin/matte” finish, but it is possible to get a dent or gouge and need to get it polished out. I managed to get a ding that left a sharp edge once when I grabbed and then dropped a heavy suitcase…but I never did anything about it and the edge softened up and now I can only find it if I run my fingernail along side.

Platinum is actually quite soft on the Vicker’s hardness scale (though how soft varies depends on the particular alloy – cobalt, ruthenium, iridium, 5% or 10%, etc) but the nice thing is that there is very little metal loss when it scratches unlike with gold (gold “flakes” off when it scratches, platinum tends to displace). There is some loss if you are frequently professionally polishing it and the like, and it does not mean you may NEVER need to reshank for example as I have had to reshank very old platinum rings, but it is a lot less over time than gold will. 

This quality is actually why platinum is recommended for prongs and such because rather than wearing down, or cracking, it will “bend” and likely still hold the stone as platinum does not have memory.

For comparison, here is the underside of one of my platinum rings after it was reshanked..so brand new shank. See how shiny it is:

 

And a few months later…in this picture you can see the underside of my platinum ring and the “patina” from a few months wear. It is quite a bit less in your face shiny/reflective.

 

I like the patina to be honest and it really is only on underside. I tend to just leave it and now and then use a Sunshine cloth to shine it up and it does make things shinier though not to degree of a professional polish. But, one of my colleagues has a platinum e-ring and platinum wedding band and she HATES patina. She has her rings polished at her jeweler’s every 3-4 months.

Here is some info on the hardness of different platinum alloys:

http://www.mwmjewelry.com/platinum_purity.htm

My platinum rings are all 90/10 platinum/iridium as that was the platinum alloy of choice back when they were made, and when I have had repairs I have asked jewelers to use the same. Many vendors do use 95/5 platinum cobalt by default, so you have to inquire if you want different.

 

White gold is actually quite “hard” due to the nickel, and rhodium plating is VERY hard so if you are plating it it will be very resistant to scratches. You can also get white gold aloys, including white gold/palladium alloys that don’t need rhodium plating and are not only very white but are very resistant to scratching. I posted this photo of one of my earlier sets earlier, but this is 18k gold/palladium – no rhodium plating. It stayed VERY shiny and resistant to scratching.

 

It is a mission of mine to clear up this idea that ALL white gold needs to be plated. Nope, many cheaper alloys are plated and “need” to be if you don’t like a warm unplated white, but there are a lot of VERY white alloys out there (Stuller’s X1, Hoover and Strong’s Super White, many gold/palladium alloys). Even so, there are people who really like the look of rhodium plating for its high polished shine, hardness/scratch resistance, and very white appearance. I am not one of them, but rhodium plating gets a bad rap at times, and I don’t think it is deserved. Rhodium plating is IDEAL for those who appreciate the benefits and high shine. With a good plating thickness, you may only “need” to replate every 1-2 years or so, which is no worse than a regular platinum polishing if you don’t like patina.

Post # 6
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Helper bee

I thought I preferred the brighter white of white gold but I found that I love the patina! It gives my ring a vintage feel! I had mine for a full year before I had it inspected and they polished it. To be honest, I was a little upset because I really missed my patina. I have a half eternity band so I can really only see the patina on the bottom but I feel like the duller color of the platinum makes my diamonds pop! 

Here is a pic of my ring one month after having it polished. There’s already some patina. 

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

 these are the only wear on my rings and the engagement ring is around 3 years of heavy wear while wedding band is almost 2.  Never had them polished.  

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: March 2017

I don’t have platinum, so can’t speak to the patina. I have white gold and have been wearing this ring for about 5 months. There are scratches in the band on the under side of the ring from wear, but I don’t mind them. The top of the ring has remained polished and shiny.

As an FYI, if you ask a jeweler to use X1 white gold, it does not need to be dipped because it is not plated. I included a photo of this. The ring on top is typical 14K white gold that need to be re-dipped and the bottom ring is my e-ring, which is X1 14K white gold.

Post # 9
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2017

I have a family ring (his family) that was purchased in the 40s when silver was being rationed for the war effort, so platinum rings became more popular. I’m the third owner. Not a scratch on it. People are shocked when I tell them how old it is caus it looks brand new. 

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 2010

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abwcmo :  @abwcmo

Actually that is backwards…platinum was very popular from around 1900-1940 (my rings are from 1900-1910 and 1930-1940), and availability was limited in WW2 due to its use in the war and that was when white gold became popular!

During WW2, the US even banned platinum for non-military applications: 

http://www.gordonsjewelers.com/productknowledge/index.jsp?page=metals_Platinum’ defer=’defer

Platinum was the metal of choice in the US from the turn of the century to the 1940’s. During World War II, platinum was declared a strategic metal, and its use was banned in all non-military applications. Platinum never regained its popularity after the war until 1992 when the Platinum Guild International, USA was formed to help promote the use of the jewelry. Since it was founded, the sale of platinum has risen 1000%.

 

https://www.dcolejewelers.com/blog/about-platinum/

During World War II, the US government declared platinum a strategic metal, so white gold, silver and palladium were substituted for all white metal jewelry. After the war, platinum returned to the jewelry market and has had periods of great popularity. Platinum is very fashionable now; interest in the precious, coolly lustrous white metal has grown rapidly over the last ten years. Platinum is the heaviest of the precious metals. Platinum is a family group of six metals: platinum, palladium, rhodium, ruthenium, iridium, and osmium.

 

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2017

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RayKay :  Curious! I only knew what I’d been told so I guess I’ve got to do some investigating on when it was actually bought! I know the original owners got married 1944 or 1945, that it was bought with his combat pay, and it’s been appraised as high grade platinum….  

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 2000

I have a 100 year old family platinum ring. It had always had a finish that was like pewter. i didnt even KNOW that it could be polished up to be shiney until I saw platinum rings in Tiffany’s store. 

So, I took my platinum ring in to be polished and that polish lasted a few months.

I am back to keeping it at a dull finish. i hate jewelry that needs maintenance, that is a further waste of money In My Humble Opinion. Thats why I love yellow gold, it is classic and does not require maintenance.

Post # 13
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: February 2009

I love my platinum rings, and never actaully polish them.  It is more pure, so softer than 14k gold, but in my experience it scratches less.  I can see the patina on my ering now, compared to my wedding band, and I kind of like the story that tells.

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Buzzing bee

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bquakkel :  I have two platinum rings and one white gold. I hate my white gold engagement ring. HATE IT! I hate that I have to redip it and that it only lasts a month maybe two.

One platinum ring I have is from 1923. Its the “orange blossom” pattern, or one of them and looks fine. But it should cause it has a pattern. I also have one from 1910. It’s scratched a little, but nothing that is noticable.  

My orange blossom ring I wear daily and it does get dingy a tad, however I throw it in some soapy water and then clean it off and its shinny again. 

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