Post # 1
So, since my husband and I are moving to Denver, I am looking for a second shooter for the five of my PA weddings he can no longer work next year. I’m down to two main choices, but I’m having A REALLY hard time deciding what’s best.
Photographer A: Really great portfolio, big, unjustifiable ego. I am bordering on not liking him, but he’s available because he’s still really new and agreable to my terms and rate.
Photographer B: So/so work, but she’s so new, it’s almost impossible to tell how much she’ll improve with a little more experience. I’m sure I could help her in some areas. She is SUPER sweet and I know her focus will be on being as big of a help to me as she can.
Ahhh, so who do I go with? I know, it’s the age old question. I want what is best for my brides, but I’m not sure if that’s going to the cooperative/helpful person who gets the shots I need them to get and assists me when I needs assisting without giving attitude or pursuing their own agenda, getting maybe a few really good shots out of them, or if it’s the person who is probably going to get me a lot of extra great shots, but may not do what I ask (e.g. costing the bride detail shots or grooms face shots if he’s too busy shooting the bride for his own portfolio etc.). I think you ladies would be great to poll for this, since you are a pretty good representation of who I’m trying to please. Any advice would be great! Thanks!
Post # 3
I’d go for B. No one wants to work with someone who has an attitude, and I’m guessing your customers wouldn’t like him either. If you go with B she’ll be easier to work with and you’ll be doing her a favor by helping her get into the business more. She can only improve from here on out. Manners go a long way in my book. Go with B.
Post # 4
I’d go with the jerk with the better portfolio, as long as he isn’t a jerk to the clients.
Post # 5
I’d go for B just because I wouldn’t want to deal with A. Plus, since she’s so nice, I’d bet she’s work really hard to get even better.
Post # 6
Speaking generally, when it comes to wedding photography where so much depends on the relationship the photographer can foster I think it’s an easy choice.
Maybe the guy pumps himself for interviews and thus comes off more arrogant than he is, but then if he has the talent to back it up it’s hard to tell. You’d know best if the girl has a good eye and is teachable and willing to work hard. But based on what you’ve said I’d go with the girl.
If it’s only for 5 weddings though….she’s not going to have much time to learn and grow, so I guess that’s another thing to consider. Maybe if you’re really firm with him about your expectations and say if he doesn’t get what you need for the first wedding then he’s out?…. hard decision. Guess it depends on how flexible you can be.
Post # 7
@ILikePink: Haha, that’s part of it too! One of the things that happens with bad-attitude second shooters who think they are so awesome is that they sometimes try to steal your referrals in a way. For example, they try to win the bride and groom over into liking them more than you. I’ve heard horror stories where they hand out their own business cards at the wedding they are working for you. They friend the bride and groom on Facebook and take credit for everything they can. Now I’m not saying this guy will DEFINITELY do this, but he seems a high risk.
As for the girl, is there some potential? Sure. Will I have enough time to foster it and have it grow into awesomeness, probably not. At the end of the day, though, all 2nd shooter shots ARE just extra and the B&G hire me for my shots, which she will help free me up to be able to get so I’m really torn. I have a third shooter I use and like, but he charges more than I charge the couple for the 2nd photographer, so booking him so much is counter productive and he already has like 7 weddings for me next year already.
Post # 8
I’m sorry, I don’t see the point of this post, besides advertising that you are moving to Denver.
As long as you supply a quality product with full coverage (nothing missing) the client will be pleased. If you do your job correctly, the bride won’t notice anything but people taking pictures, so I am not sure how your choice is really going to affect the client as long as they deliver.
Also, I’m not sure how people can answer your question with any degree of meaning without seeing the portfolio’s of the 2 you mentioned. This is a question YOU need to decide based on the working relationship you desire and the images you expect.
The client rarely even meets the second shooter prior to the event. The shooter shows up, typically stays ” behind the scenes” of the lead photographer, and goes home. If everything is done right, the images are meshed and the client doesn’t know which was taken by which photographer.
I am really not sure what you are looking for here, and are you really going to base your decision on what people respond here not really knowing any of the details?
Simple solution: Why not try both of them out for one wedding and see who works out better. Use that person for the remaining 3.
Post # 9
Even though you are only shooting in PA for another 5 weddings. FB and review sites will follow you everywhere. I would pick the person you are most comfortable representing your business.
If you can’t decide, I like User’s idea of trying them each out.
Post # 10
I’d go with B. When we were interviewing photographers, we turned down so many with great portfolios because their attitudes just sucked.
Post # 11
I would go with Person B – maybe with enough training she will be up to the level you would like her to be. Im sure she is eager to learn and maybe just doesnt have the necessary training as of yet.
Post # 12
@USER876: Wow User, every single one of your posts is negative so please refrain from responding to any of mine. I’m not advertising, I’m asking the same question of brides that they ask themselves when hiring a photographer, “Which is more important, attitude or portfolio?”
@everyone else, thanks for the responses! Since I’m so sketch about photographer A, I am going to meet with him this weekend in person and if I still feel the same about him, I’ll go with photographer B. Sometimes things get lost in online translation, so I want to be sure if I’m eliminating him based on attitude he’s really as bad as I think.
Post # 13
Hey Lauren – when I searched for assistants/second shooters, I picked the ones that I worked best with, and have indeed eliminated some people with better portfolios. They’re representing my company and so I felt really strongly that they should have a similar personality to mine.
Whatever shortcomings in portfolio, you could help mitigate that by bringing them along with you to an engagement shoot, letting them shoot some shots, and review their portfolios and give them the tools to the be the best second shooter for YOU.
Post # 14
I agree with ILikePink 100 %
I think if you want what is best for your business you would go with the person with the best shots.
As a bride and photographer, I 100 % want the best shots. Period. I honestly think any bride would, unless they were seriously offended by the photographer.
Post # 15
@PassionatePhotoLady: Have you met with either one of them yet? They could surprise you in person, rather than online.
Post # 16
Hey all! I just wanted to update that I met with Photographer A in person today, and would you believe I totally misjudged him? It’s funny how things get re-interpreted when aren’t actually speaking to someone face to face. He is really just this sweet, dorky, timid guy and I think his formality online just through me off.
Anyway, I’m really glad I did meet in person, because he was able to take a whole bunch of dates. It looks like I’ll have two left to give photographer B a try as well. Good news all around! Thanks again for all your help!