(Closed) Boston – Outcome – Your Thoughts?

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Post # 3
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

I’m so happy they found who is responsible but I can’t help but think about what’s next. There are so many sick, angry individuals that put much effort in hurting innocent people, to prove a point or not.the movie theater shooting, college shooting, sandy hook, smh

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

I don’t care how they did it, as long as they got them. And they did.

Post # 5
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

I want answers, I hope we get some!

Post # 6
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA

I have mixed feelings about him not being read his Miranda rights. On one hand, I understand the urgency of not knowing if there are other bombs, other plots, etc and I want them to get any and all information. On the other hand, it seems like a very Dick Cheney-esque slippery slope of a policy…. “We will disregard your constitutional rights because we need to!” I mean, the kid is an American citizen after all. Don’t get me wrong, if he’s guilty (which it sure seems like he is), I hope he pays – this is a case for the death penalty if there ever was one. I’m just not sure about the relaxing of constitutional rights :/

Also, GOOD WORK cops and Bostonians in catching this mother fucker!!!

Post # 7
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2013

It was a voluntary shelter in place. The people of Boston complied for their own safety and to provide the best chance to find this guy. There were devices throughout the city and they threw them at officers the night the first suspect died. It was a highly dangerous situation and they made the right choice to shelter in place and close the transit system. He was not mirandized  because this is a federal case and there is an exemption for that.

 

Post # 8
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2014

@lolot:  I think there’s a provision where it says that Miranda isn’t necessary in a situation where there’s public safety at issue.  So, it’s not like his constitutional rights were being violated because he may not have had any constitutional rights to Miranda to begin with.  BUT – I will say that’s probably a very slippery slope for them to be on and they’re probably seriously toeing the line and I’m not even sure how a court would end up ruling on that.

Post # 9
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

The no tolerance policy is pretty high right now. The shooting in Arizona, Aurora, Sandy Hook… Enough already. Glad they got him, and I assume exceptions are made when an entire city is being terrorized.

Post # 10
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA

@futuremrsk18:  ah, interesting, thanks. The news bit I heard about said that it (public safety provision) had gone to the Supreme Court already and seemed super solid. 

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2014

@bella128:  they shut down the city because the person could have been hiding anywhere. They cared so much because he killed half a dozen people, injured hundreds, and spread fear and terrorism throughout the city, state, and I daresay the whole country. Even now with the London marathon, security is being amped up because no one is sure these two acted alone. 

So that is why they shut down the city.

Post # 12
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2014

@lolot:  The provision itself, yes.  But, the way they used it here – perhaps not.  I’m not 100% sure of the facts to make an educated guess.  I’m not sure if it matters that they knew there were no other actors involved (2 guys, both caught.. no one left to detonate any bombs).  As a lawyer, I would argue that they could have had booby traps set up and bombs set up to detonate on their own at a later time (if that’s real, IDK anything about bombs lol) and that there might still have been a danger and it was imperitave to human life to question this defendant without Mirandizing him first.  And even if his rights had been violated, all that means is that his statement can’t be used against him at trial.  I would be more concerned as a citizen that he might get off if the prosecution doesn’t have a solid enough case without his statement than I would that his rights had been violated because there is a safeguard for that (not using the statement). 

Post # 13
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2014

@bella128:  He’s not a killer.  He’s a terrorist.  That’s “above and beyond” your run-of-the-mill killer.  Most people who go in and shoot up a place end up killing themselves.  Who knows what they would have done in Ct if Adam Lanza hadn’t killed himself – or in Aurora if hisnameescapesmerightnowlol hadn’t been caught right away? 

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

I’m so amazed at how Boston responded to this chaos. Way to go to all of those law enforcement and citizens for getting a job done. My opinion, and I will tell you I know nothing about constitutions at all, is that in this type of scenario, the person should not be deemed any rights at all. He has broken an insane amount of laws and performed a terrorist attack among his own country, therefore, all rights taken away.

As far as the outcome of it all, i’m already sick of the amount of airtime they are showing these guys pictures. They are now classified as heroes. Shame on you media.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

They said on the news that it hasn’t really been done before. It pretty much needed to be done, so that he couldn’t escape. About him not being read his Miranda rights, I don’t see that as a big deal. This is a case where they just needed to get him in custody, make sure he wasn’t going to kill or hurt anyone else.

Post # 16
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

@Jw1724:  You really don’t care how the police/government goes about getting the bad guys?  

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