Post # 1
Our wedding is at an Inn that takes care of just about everything, rentals, food, and the CAKE. Unfortunately their prices are crazy, and I didn’t realize just how crazy until poking around here. It’s $7/slice and with about 180 people I just can’t fathom paying $1200+ for a plain vanilla cake without decoration even! (Any other flavors would double the cost they said and we’re just giving them a few flowers to put on). They are not the most flexible people and we so far haven’t pushed them all on price although we picked their least expensive food option. I need help moving forward!
1. Contract: In our contract the cake is “TBD” but the price quoted ($1155 – contract for min 165 guests, no max) is factored into the overall cost. We are expecting about 180 guests so that would make up for the end cost difference, plus some. Do you think we could get out of having the cake contractually?
2. Cutting Fee: They charge a $2/person cake cutting fee. How to get around this? Cupcakes? Pre-cut cakes?
3. $1200 for a vanilla cake?!! I want flavor & designs for that $$$$!
My solutions so far:
1. Cupcakes? ISSUE: not sure if they would still charge us a cutting fee?
2. Many cakes! Order (10) 8″ Cakes in different flavors, the bakery I looked at said this will serve about 110. Plus a 2 tiered cake for us to cut to accomodate about 60. ISSUE: not sure if they would still charge us a cutting fee?
3. Deal with the expense.
4. Other, any thoughts are great!
Thank you in advance for your thoughts!!
Post # 3
It sounds to me like you’re already contracted with them for the cake so you are probably stuck. Even if they do let you bring in other cakes, I can almost guarentee you that they will still charge the cake cutting fee.
Sorry you may be stuck spending so much on cake!
Post # 4
They are going to charge you the cutting fee if you don’t use their cake. It’s in your contract that you signed. My caterer is the same way and that pissed me off because I really wanted red velvet for the wedding cake and theirs did NOT impress me so, instead of paying $2/slice cutting fee (which is beyond lame) on top of $ for another cake, I’m settling for something I didn’t want but that tastes good. I was pissed at first but I’m over it now.
That cake price sounds mad high though.
Oh and also one of my BFFs is making a personal little red velvet cake for me and Fiance and just giving it to us so I WILL get my red velvet cake at the wedding and I’ll be cutting it my damn self.
Post # 5
Sounds to me like you’re stuck. You’re not going to get around the cake cutting fee, because they will say they still have to plate it and serve it for you. you might have to buckle down and deal with the crazy price but since it’s already included in your contract, just go with it and pay the difference.
Post # 6
I was afraid of this…What if I asked the Inn:
1. To make cupcakes instead, do you think they would still charge $7/each??
2. Or many cakes? (I’m guessing this would be as expensive)
3. Or a small 2 tired cake with a sheet cake in back?
Post # 7
I think that no matter what you do you are going to be charged at least $1155 since that is what is in your contract. So I’d say just go with whatever style (ie cupcakes, many cakes, small cake + sheet cake, etc) you’d prefer because I don’t think your price is going to change.
Post # 8
You have not contracted for a cake. If you choose not to have a cake, they can’t charge you for the cake. A contract must have a price or a means by which to determine the price in order to be binding (sorry, lawyer speak here).
Now, it sounds maybe like you have a minimum for the whole reception? Like, you have to spend $10,000, so the cake would get you up there? Let me know if that is true, that would alter things.
The cake cutting fee is twice what I normally have seen (usually $1 a person) and usually it is waived if you use their cake. So, that is a little crazy. But I really would not be surprised if you could get the cake you love outside of the venue for around $7 a slice, pay the $2 a slice for the cutting fee, and be much happier.
They are also crazy that flavored cake would double the price. Really, that is ridiculous.
Post # 9
Im assuming that the cake cutting fee is if you dont use their cake. In which case, you would have to find a cake under $5 per person for you not to end up paying the same amount. If you can do this, go for it. If not, I think you might have to just use their cake or come up with another dessert option provided by the venue. I dont know about where you are getting married but in CA $2-3/pp is pretty standard for a cake cutting fee.
Post # 10
The cutting fee is to cover the cost of the dishes and silverware, not just the actual cutting, so they would probably still charge you. Having multiple cakes would work out nicely. It’s much less expensive to get regular desserts from a bakery, and people will love the choices in flavor. You can decorate one of the cakes to be really special too, without paying too much.
Post # 11
@monitajb: Thanks for your input. I’d like some more insight into our contract b/c I don’t think we followed normal suit. They are newish (about 5 years out?) and are still growing their business so they are by no means experts or using best practices. I would like to note there may seem a way to “get out of the cake” (need your help here) but I don’t want this to put us on their bad side.
This is what we’ve done, we gave our initial deposit and 50% deposit, just checks sent in the mail. The document stating our cake pricing is entitled “Name_Name Contract.doc”. In this document under “Cake” is states: TBD (from a later meeting we decided on Vanilla due to price, and they don’t do tastings). Moving on, later in the document there is a spreadsheet outlining our costs, this is called “Wedding Proposal Package”. In this we are quoted for $7/person for 165 people = $1155. 165 is our minimum headcount we are responsible for. We will without a doubt be above this, probably about 180-190 which would make up for the overall difference (thinking he might claim we need to make up for the $1155 money). **We were sent this document in an email that said “Cheers”, it did not ask us to approve or sign.
Now, I know this is going to be playing dirty to say we didn’t sign it, never approved it in writing (although at a later date we discussed flavors). Thus, can we backout on the cake? How would you approach this? Ask them about them making cupcakes b/c it seems like it must be cheaper per person? Mention we’re looking for other dessert options?
Thanks again for all your insights!!
Post # 12
And it is correct, the cake cutting fee is only for bringing in cakes from elsewhere.
Post # 13
I just got married at Knapp Winery near Ithaca and live in the area. Which Inn are you working with? Unfortunately, for a decorated cake, that is a fairly standard price for the area. Many of the quality cake bakeries in the area start at $7/slice. We had a fantastically decorated cake from lona cakes in Ithaca (www.lonacakes.com) for ~$6/slice with lots of fun flair and yummy flavors! Her cakes start at $4/slice and go up depending on delivery and decoration. Which bakery are you looking at in the area? Some are better than others…PM me if you would like some additional local suggestions. Also, cupcakes may not be any cheaper because you need something to set them up on and they may charge you a set up fee…