(Closed) Calling All Atheists–Please Give Me Some Insight

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Post # 137
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Bumble bee

I consider myself and my SO to be “Apatheist” which basically means in short that we are not interested in accepting nor denying the claims of a higher being, as whether or not they exist, it has no impact on our life.

1. In your view, what is responsible for the existence of the universe? Where did the world come from? How did it come into being? I have to follow the way of science. Do I believe they have it all figured out? No Way… but there is proof to many of their theories. Humans in my mind where put on this earth to destroy this world just like any other parasite that destroys its host on this earth.

2. What are the basic elements of your belief system? I just copied this from Wikipedia but it pretty much sums it up “Thousands of years of debate have neither proven, nor dis-proven, the existence of one or more deities. This view concludes that even if one or more deities exist, they do not appear to be concerned about the fate of humans. Therefore, their existence has little impact on personal human affairs and should be of little theological interest.” Also that I believe that people just need something to believe in, it makes them feel better, justifies the actions of others and themselves, comforts them in times of sorrow etc. The rules of religion are just another type or law; it forces morals and values onto the followers, and scares them into doing what they are told too whether it is for the good of others or not.

3. Explain to me in which religion you were raised by your parents, if any. How did your parents approach religion in the home (strict, lax, etc.)? My parents did not raise me under a religion, we did not go to church and it was never talked about. They basically told me I can make my own decision. I have gone to church/youth groups under my own free will, not to follow the religion but because I generally enjoy the motivational speeches about life that they give to youth and adults too.

4. What events in your past affected your beliefs about God’s existence (e.g. – I studied biology; comparative religions or anthropology; or I met a boy/girl I liked and was influenced by him/her)?

5. What are your main objections to belief in God’s existence (e.g. – suffering; pluralism; hiddenness)? Blind Faith is the root of all the problems, believing just because you are told to believe stops society from changing and advancing in life, which is easily seen in parts of the world that are heavily religious. Believing that your religion is the right one and everyone else is wrong is just not right; it is close minded. I have an open mind and respect to all religions, and in turn I have an open mind to everyone. I have just as much respect for someone that is Christian as I do for someone that is Jewish or Sikh or Mormon or whatever.

6. What is your purpose in life, and why did you choose that purpose? Is it just yours, or for everyone else too? My purpose in life is to be happy, to help others, to learn as much as I can about the world and myself and to pass on my knowledge to future generations. That is the circle of life… really we are just here to increase the population but I prefer to aim higher than that. J

7. What happens to a person at death? The same as before you were born… nothing. It is a terrifying thought but that is just how it is. Why I am I seeing though my eyes and you are seeing through yours, nobody knows, it’s just how life is. Kind of like you don’t remember being a baby yet you were still a baby at one point. I may “wake up” as someone else after I die, but I won’t know it, so what’s the difference.

8. How important is your belief system to you in terms of your decision making process? How does it enter into the ways that you establish priorities and goals? I base my choices in life off of logic, plan and simple, I make choices and accept the consequences for those choices, I have hopes and dreams of course but I don’t jump and pray that god will catch my fall. If someone dies I do not blame god same as I do not pray to him to get better, we control what we have control over but some things are out of our control and almost everything is the result of choices that we or someone else has made. I also fully believe in survival of the fittest.

9. If you could say anything you want about what you perceive to be the Christian community, what would you say? What are the problems with the Christian view of reality? What do you like/appreciate about Christians? What do you not like or appreciate? I don’t know enough about the Christian religion to pass judgement on it, but I do believe the every religion has its strong points, certain values or moral should be followed by everyone.  Honestly if you took the good points from every religion and got rid of the crazy ridiculous parts and combined them all together we would have on amazing society.

10. Is there anything else you think I should know about atheism from your perspective? You should never be afraid to question something, don’t believe someone just because you are told too. Show respect and love for everything regardless of their life choices until they give you a reason not to. Everyone has a right to make their own decisions in life, your mind, your body, and your choices. You are not wrong for thinking differently from  someone else, including your parents, there is never only one way to do something.

11. Please include a little about yourself, for example: age, gender, worldview affiliation, occupation, education level, married or not, etc.

Age: 24 / Female / Agriculture / University Grad / Married.

Post # 139
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

I’m an atheist but I took a course last semester on Native American Philosophy (I’m part native) that was sooo interesting. Pretty much, they believe the purpose of life is (being a good person of course) to see beyond “the illusion”. to recognize that physically we have a lot in common with a wooden chair, we are all just molecules bouncing around and not reallyl “touching” anything and when we die our bodies just return to the universe and are recycled into other forms.

Post # 141
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

I’m morethan happy to help you, even if it’s been a bit. 

1. In your view, what is responsible for the existence of the universe? Where did the world come from? How did it come into being?

It’s a bit murky, but I don’t feel any pain or discomfort in admitting that. Our knowledge of the world and the universe has come a very long way but stil has a very long way to go. The most widely accepted theory at present is of course that of the big bang, and I passively accept it but am happy to change my mind should evidence come forward to suggest either it’s unlikely or something else has better backing.

2. What are the basic elements of your belief system?

I believe only in the physical world. I don’t believe anything supernatural exists. There are things existing in the world that our current tools have a really tough time wrapping around and measuring properly, but there is nothing impossible to measure, just that which we haven’t measured yet.

3. Explain to me in which religion you were raised by your parents, if any. How did your parents approach religion in the home (strict, lax, etc.)?

Very lax. My dad is a lapsed catholic who doesn’t believe in all the dogma, my mom is a presbyterian who doesn’t go to church. They passively believe in a god and a heaven but don’t think about it much. We went to church when I was younger but stopped by my teen years just because none of us really felt like going. My mom was very upset during my pagan phase but oddly doesn’t seem to mind that I’m an atheist now.

4. What events in your past affected your beliefs about God’s existence (e.g. – I studied biology; comparative religions or anthropology; or I met a boy/girl I liked and was influenced by him/her)?

Academics, mostly. I never really believed strongly in any deities, I saw the bible as similar to any other group of fables and myths. Even as a kid my family presented bible stories not as accounts of history but as tales from which I should find some moral lesson. I believed in abstract supernatural things for a long time but the more I’ve learned, the more I’ve realized that that was nothing more than a longing for those things to exist to add beauty and meaning to what’s around me. As I’ve learned more about the world, biology, physics, astronomy, anthropology, I’ve found that the world is already beautiful and meaningful without the addition of anything supernatural.

As the great Douglas Adams once said, “Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it too?” 

5. What are your main objections to belief in God’s existence (e.g – suffering; pluralism; hiddenness)?

Lack of evidence, primarily. What are your main objections to my statement that there’s an invisible, inaudible, intangible dragon in my garage who can shoot fire, but the fire has no heat and it can’t be measured? I am disturbed by people basing massive decisions and going to war and killing about something for which no evidence even exists.

6. What is your purpose in life, and why did you choose that purpose? Is it just yours, or for everyone else too?

Primarily, to have a really awesome time and to be generally cool and help people whenever I can. I’d like other people to feel that way but everyone’s free to make up their own purpose. (I usually only get judgey if I think it hurts others.)

7. What happens to a person at death?

Their brain function ceases, their consciousness ends, their body decomposes (or is disposed of.)

8. How important is your belief system to you in terms of your decision making process? How does it enter into the ways that you establish priorities and goals?

I try to live and make decisions mostly based on evidence, so pretty important. 

9. If you could say anything you want about what you perceive to be the Christian community, what would you say? What are the problems with the Christian view of reality? What do you like/appreciate about Christians? What do you not like or appreciate?

I would say that churches should be paying taxes and staying the hell away from the government. I appreciate Christians who don’t try to recruit or tell me what to do, but just use their faith as an excuse to be nice. 

10. Is there anything else you think I should know about atheism from your perspective?

You don’t need a deity to have a moral system. 

11. Please include a little about yourself, for example: age, gender, worldview affiliation, occupation, education level, married or not, etc.

24, female, not sure what “worldview affiliation” means, teacher, BA, engaged (like probably most of this site)

Post # 142
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

It’s been a while, but I’m happy to help. I think atheists are quite misunderstood and thought to believe the exact same thing when we all don’t.


1. In your view, what is responsible for the existence of the universe? Where did the world come from? How did it come into being?

I believe in the Big Bang theory though I realize there are some flaws and I’m willing to accept what is found and comes about as science progresses. I find the Eternal inflation model quite fascinating.

2. What are the basic elements of your belief system?

Secular humanism explains the elements of my belief system rather well. http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=main&page=affirmations

(Secular humanism and atheism can go hand in hand.)

3. Explain to me in which religion you were raised by your parents, if any. How did your parents approach religion in the home (strict, lax, etc.)?

I was raised “Mormon” and my parents were pretty strict about most things, a bit more lenient on others.

4. What events in your past affected your beliefs about God’s existence (e.g. – I studied biology; comparative religions or anthropology; or I met a boy/girl I liked and was influenced by him/her)?

My past with religion, not just Mormonism, either.

5. What are your main objections to belief in God’s existence (e.g – suffering; pluralism; hiddenness)?

The bible doesn’t hold up. From the time of Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection  around 33 BC, there is nothing mentioned of it until Paul aprox. 2 decades later where he speaks nothing of a virgin birth, miraculous healings, 40 days of temptation, etc., he speaks only of his death and resurrection and he speaks of those things in a non-physical, non material way. It wasn’t until at least 70 years later that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote the gospels. If God sending his one and only son to die for our sins happened, why was it not documented in much greater detail soon after the fact?

Also, there are historical figures around Jesus’ time that can be proven with solid fact (Ceasar Agustus, Pontus Pilot for example) but the man Jesus Christ cannot be.

Without Jesus Christ, Christianity doesn’t stand up and thus a Christian god does not either.

6. What is your purpose in life, and why did you choose that purpose? Is it just yours, or for everyone else too?

My purpose in life is to enrich the lives of those around me, bring them joy, befriend people especially those in need of befriending, helping bring light to good causes that need attention, and making the world a better place for everyone to coexist. I don’t believe I chose it, I believe it’s our responsibility as humans, to better our earth. I think it’s for everyone else.

7. What happens to a person at death?

Consciousness ceases, your body degrades.

8. How important is your belief system to you in terms of your decision making process? How does it enter into the ways that you establish priorities and goals?

Important many ways. It enters into ways that I establish priorities to volunteer.

9. If you could say anything you want about what you perceive to be the Christian community, what would you say? What are the problems with the Christian view of reality? What do you like/appreciate about Christians? What do you not like or appreciate?

I percieve the Christian community to be blinded by the fact that (this is US-centric) America is NOT a Christian nation (see Treaty of Tripoli) and the attempts to turn America into one are causing those who are not Christian to become more and more hostile. I feel like the Christian community has lost touch with the message of love thy neighbor, charitable acts, and being truly Christlike. The problems with the Christian view of reality I feel are is that if someone doesn’t have religion (such as an atheist) they cannot have morality which is absolutely false. I also dislike the feeling of having Christianity shoved down my throat. I dislike being discriminated against as an atheist/secular humanist. I think it’s a problem that Christians tend to follow without question and that can be dangerous. One should always question. I appreciate the Christians I do come across that have an open mind. I don’t like prejudice, assumption and like I came across in a thread a day or two ago, telling me that atheism is a religion and in the same comment replying to another poster saying Buddhism was not. Buddhism is more of a religion than atheism will ever be, it made me feel like I was being discriminated against by a Christian. 

10. Is there anything else you think I should know about atheism from your perspective?

Atheists are just as human as Christians. 

11. Please include a little about yourself, for example: age, gender, worldview affiliation, occupation, education level, married or not, etc.

26, Female, not sure what worldview is, PharmD student, will have PharmD in a year, Married.

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