Calling all IVF ladies!

posted 2 years ago in TTC
Post # 2
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Helper bee

Hey bee,  starting our first round,  on birth control right now and start injections next week. I have gone back and fortg on doind icsi,  and have decided that we will go for it. Reason being i have 1 ovary and not very many follicls so we believe we wont get many eggs. We are doing icsi to give them their best shot at fertilising. We wont be doing any testing as we have no reason to believe its needed. We will see after our first round if there seem to be any quality issues etc,  and maybe we would consider testing after that. 

We conceived naturally a few months ago but lost it due to ectopic,  so our doc seems positive enough for us given we have had success conceiving together.  

Ill be honest bee,  i go between feeling positive and negative all the time. Its such a minefield.  I just turned 35 and am very aware of this! 

Best of luck bee x 

Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

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Dr_dazzle :  Our clinic includes ICSI automatically. They will allow the sperm and egg to try to fertilize naturally but will perform ICSI if that doesn’t happen. Maybe that is an option? We did not do PGS/PGD testing. We’re on the younger side with no history of miscarriage and our embryos barely make it to day 5 so it’s not really an option for us. But, even if it was, I’ve read too much about embryos deemed abormal possibly self correcting in the womb and going on to be a viable pregnancy so I don’t think I would sign on for testing. It’s still in the early stages of medical acceptance (my friend did IVF less than 4 years ago and no option for testing) so I think they still have a lot to learn about it. But,  maybe do the genetic counseling just to be sure you are not both carriers for any serious genetic disorders before you decide. 

Post # 4
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2017

I think our clinic includes ICSI as well . We have a bit of a different story: we need to go the egg donor route. We thought about adoption, but I’d love to have control over the prenatal environment and apparently carrying the child affects the expression of our child’s genes. It’s a little hard to talk about this on a public forum, but… I just kind of want other people to know they aren’t alone

 

the cool thing about this is there is a guarantee program! Because egg donors are quite young, there is no need to PGS test. And we get a live baby or our money back.

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee

Our clinic included ICSI but we had male factor so would have done it regardless.  No pgs/pgd testing for a few reasons – cost, no history of miscarriage and pretty sure we wouldn’t have very many blasts so just wanted to give them a try.  Two blasts, I’m 25 weeks with fresh transfer and the other blast is frozen.

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2017

I just finished my first round.  We only had 3 eggs, and we used ICSI, and they failed to fertilize.  The round was a big of a mess right from the start, but I would definitely recommend ICSI.  It was $1800 at my clinic.

I’m torn on PGD/PGS.  We’ve both had our genetic screens done, and neither one of us are carriers, but I’m really torn on the chromosomal screening.  I’m 38, so it would probably be worthwhile, however, I’ve read some studies that show it’s flaws.  There are lots of cases where older women have transferred embryos that were “abnormal” and have gone on to have totally normal babies.  

I already know we are going to be working with a small quantity of eggs due to my age and AMH, I’m just not sure I want to further reduce that number when the embryos may very well be healthy.

We are using a brand new clinic for our next cycle, so it will be interesting to get their take.  Still undecided.

Here is the link to a really great article that talks about woman having healthy babies with abnormal embryos 

https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/ivf-abnormal-embryos-new-last-chance.html

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

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Dr_dazzle :  We fertilized my eggs with half icsi and half just regular way. Heard good results with icsi so we gave it a try. Our icsi ones fertilized a little better then non icsi but I dont know if that would be the case for eveyeone . We did not do pgs testing bc I am young and no fertility issues.  ( we had to do ivf bc my DH is a cancer survivor so we used pre cancer sperm that we banked) my first ivf transfer took but I miscarried around 7 weeks. The second one took and I am almost 31 weeks pregnant. Good luck with whatever decision you chose!!

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

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Dr_dazzle :  I should add the reason we did half icsi was bc we did several rounds of ui which were unsuccessful and I feared fertilization may be our issue. The doctor didnt think so but told me if I was worried I could do half and half. 

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2016

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Dr_dazzle :  We did ICSI.  Our clinic does ICSI automatically unless you ask them not to.  I talked to the embryologist about it because we were using a sperm donor so why do ICSI?  Basically they explained that sometimes even when everything looks perfect, fertilization does not occur.  This scared me and so we opted to just go ahead with ICSI.  10/12 eggs fertilized and we ended up with 7 frozen high quality blasts.  I am part of an infertility group in my city and this just happened to a couple.  Their eggs failed to fertilize so they had to do rescue ICSI immediately once they realized this.  Sperm and eggs all looked normal.  Thankfully they ended up with several fertilizing from the rescue ICSI.  We did not do the pgs because I am young…no history of miscarriage…so we thought it wasn’t worth the extra cost and kind of didn’t want to know.

Post # 11
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Buzzing Beekeeper

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Dr_dazzle :  We did ICSI, no PG. The reason being that we only did what our doctor deemed necessary and what was covered by insurance. My husband has sperm issues so ICSI was a given as far as our doctors were concerned. I’m under 35 and so we did genetic testing to see if I was a carrier for anything which they claimed they do for everyone, but my best friend went to the same clinic and didn’t have pre-pregnancy genetic testing. We think they just said that so that they didn’t have to come right out and say it’s because my husband is Ashkenazi and a higher risk for being a carrier of certain things. Regardless, since I’m not a carrier for anything awful they didn’t test my husband or the embryos. We ended up with 4 on day 5; one is our beautiful daughter and the other 3 are frozen for future use.

 

Post # 12
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: December 2017

I had my first US today and start my meds tonight with my first round of IVF.  I am 40 so definitly older first time mom to be hopefully.  We are doing ICSI and PGS but not PGD.  ICSI was an additional $1700 I think but out of his 4 sperm samples that have been analized his motility was normal 3 times and 0 1 time which was odd but we decided to not chance it and just do ICSI.

All my genetic testing came out fine, neither of us have anything genetic that we know of in our famlies, and my husband is a different ethnicity so we likely wouldnt carry the same recessive genes so we didnt think that would be necessary.  I am a Neonatal Nurse Practitioner (DH is a physician) so I see all the bad things that we all fear so I definitely wanted PGS testing done.  I know that I only see the bad things and that most of the time everything is fine but we have to do it for our own peace of mind due to my age.  

Here is my coworkers story:  She was 35 at the time of IVF.  She had 21 eggs retreived, 11 fertilized and 5 grew to blasts.  All were tested and 2 were normal 1 was Trisomy 21 and 2 Trisomy 18.  I know that they tell us that most likely abnormal embies wont attach but I know thats not true since I seen many trisomy 18s in my career.  I dont think I could mentally handle that at this point in my life so yeah, Definitly PGS testing.  She unfortunately had her 2 girls at 25 weeks but fortunately it was at one of the hospitals where we work and she and her girls had amazing care and they are almost 4 now I think and you would never know they were exteremly premature.  

Best of luck to you and all the others going through IVF.  Its so much more emotional than I ever thought it would be.

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