(Closed) Calorie Counting – skeptical

posted 7 years ago in Wellness
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

It’s kind of hard to say, without knowing you personally. Although most sources do say that women should not eat fewer than 1,200 calories a day, FYI. 

For one, 10 pounds isn’t that much to lose and therefore may take longer. Second, how tall are you and is 110 a reasonable goal–and not necessarily because it’s what a height and weight chart tells you. Some people are bigger boned or have more muscle than others and for them it might be more appropriate to be on the heavier side of a certain weight range. 

If you work out, you do need to eat more calories. The other thing about working out is it can cause the scale to stagnate a bit, particularly if you are building muscle, but you’ll be getting smaller. So if the scale isn’t cooperating, then perhaps get a soft tape measurer and start taking measurements. 

The other thing I found when I got closer to my goal weight is WHAT I ate mattered as much as the amount. I know that you said that you’re cutting carbs, but that’s not necessarily the answer. Is your diet predominately plant-based (meaning, vegetables)? Do you eat breakfast? Do you eat lean protein? Do you eat processed foods? How much sugar is in your diet? How much water do you drink? How much alcohol do you drink? 

And finally, eating too little can also have an adverse effect with the scale. Sometimes people find they have to eat more in order to lose–they have to keep their metabolism humming. I find that I lose optimally when I eat more AND exercise more. I lose so-so if I exercise and eat minimally; I don’t lose well if I eat minimally and skip exercise. But that’s me. Everyone’s different. 

Post # 4
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

The thing about those types of apps and programs is that they don’t know all of the details, they’re going off very general estimates.  For example, myfitnesspal told me I couldn’t consume more than 1200 calories a day.  That’s just not going to happen.  I need a minimum of 1300 to not feel like I’m starving to death.   But even with that few calories being consumed (and working out 5 to 6 days a week), the weight is coming off excrutiatingly slow.  As in, 2 pounds in a month.

@JennyW1 is right, there are a lot of factors to be considered.  When you’ve got less to lose (like you and I), it comes off a lot slower, if at all.  Sometimes your body just likes where it’s at for whatever reason and will hold on to those extra 8 pounds for all it’s worth. Depending on your physical activity, you may not be consuming enough food.  You shouldn’t really be consuming under 1200 calories a day without doctor supervision.  In fact, I don’t know of any weight loss program that would recommend you consume any less than that without providing it’s own food to make sure you’re recieving enough nutrients.

In general though, yes.  Weight loss really does boil down to calories in vs. calories out.  Sometimes it takes awhile to find the magical formula of calories in vs. calories out that will result in weight loss without throwing your body into starvation mode, though. 

Post # 6
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

Hmm… I definitely agree with JennyW1. I think if you added some high impact cardio (as long as you’re in good enough shape to do so) and keeping above 1200 cals a day, you should see results. If not, maybe avoiding processed foods would help. You may be eating a lot of sodium and not realizing it which can contribute to added water weight.

Try taking your measurements and using those to judge change. Up your workouts to tone up and keep eating healthy and check back in a month to see if you’ve dropped inches instead of pounds. Some people’s body composition changes so much that they’ll never weigh the same at their fittest, but they are still the same size.

Good luck to you!

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2011

@arenyth:  Oh, I FEEL you girl. My Maid/Matron of Honor came over Saturday and ran on the treadmill while I did Insanity pure cardio.  When I finished she looked at me and asked “how do you NOT weigh 90 pounds?”  It sucks when you’re killing yourself for a prolonged period of time with no results.  I look at it from a mental health kind of place though: I feel best about myself when I know I’m doing everything I should be doing to look the best I can.  I watch what I eat and I exercise regularly.  Beyond that, whatever will be will be.  At least I can’t beat myself up for not even trying or half assing it. That helps to keep the funkiness at bay most of the time, anyway.

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2006

I would try LoseIt instead, it won’t put you below 1200 and they have a TON of foods on their, especially common restaurants/fast food and grocery store items.  There’s an iPod app for it too which is sooo easy to use.  I’ve lost weight with it, and when I was younger I lost 40lb on a similar calorie reduced diet (about 1250 calories/day).

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

I’m pretty skeptical of the calorie in – calorie out working like a bank ledger (possibly the fact that my body behaves in no way according to nutritional guidelines might have something to do with it), but my initial thought is that you want to build muscle but are not eating enough to build muscle.  If you’re exercising and not eating enough to make up for it, your body will use muscle for energy.  Since you’re tracking already, try adding an extra couple hundred calories (some or all of that protein) on the days you lift weights and see what happens.

Above all, though, I agree with Lezlers.  Mental health = priority #1.  You can’t beat yourself up if your body doesn’t react the way you want it to.  Sometimes we just can’t be certain shapes or sizes.

Post # 12
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

Eight pounds is actually quite a lot on someone as petite as you, so I can understand why the weight is coming off slowly, and I know how frustrating that is! 

I think that cardio-kickboxing is probably not what works best if you’re looking to build muscle. It’s high intensity, high rep that might be beneficial for your cardio system, but even with a lot of plyometrics, it’s difficult for that kind of exercise to build significant muscle.

I can only speak from my own experience, but working out five days a week with Muay Thai and Krav Maga, I can say the biggest change I’ve ever had in terms of body composition, muscle mass, etc. is doing CrossFit. Check it out and see if you’re interested. Classes can be very expensive, but there’s a Workout of the Day posted every day on the CrossFit site which can serve as a substitute. Any questions about it, just ping me!

That being said, keep up the good work in trying and working even when results have been hard to come by! You’re going to be beautiful on your wedding day no matter what!

 

Post # 13
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

This may sound crazy but when you do super intense cardio, you are definitely burning a lot of calories but not necessarily fat calories.  In some cases, you might working out too hard and it’s not really doing that much good.  Now I’m no expert but I did have my VO2 max tested to see how my body burns fat and carbs.  First I was able to find out my resting metabolic rate to show how many calories I should be eating to maintain my current weight.  From here, I’m able to change my diet and how much I exercise to fit my weight loss goal per week.

Then I was tested to see how my body burns my calories.  For me, I burn 8.1 calories (4.4 calories of which is fat) a minute when my heart rate is kept between 134-144.  As I go up, the total calories I burn increases but the amount of fat calories I burn decreases.  When my heart rate is 174, I’m burning 13 calories a minute but only .5 of those calories are fat.  I had this test done at my gym with my PT and a personalized exercise program was developed for me.  In the end, it’s all about working out smarter and not necessarily harder.  I’ve been seeing ridiculous results after being on this program for less than a month and it really hasn’t been bad.

Now this might not apply to those that only have a few pounds to lose.  I’m not exactly to that point yet. Smile

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