(Closed) Can anyone tell me about Arizona?

posted 7 years ago in Reno/Lake Tahoe
Post # 4
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2009

The ridiculously hot weather is enough to keep me away, lol!  I like hot, but I don’t like 120 degrees hot; I’m too much of a wuss!

My sister lives in Tuscon and doesn’t really like it.  Besides the weather, Arizona has a certain political atmosphere that doesn’t really mesh with her personal political beliefs.  She’s hoping to relocate close to my family in the next couple years, but since she’s in the military, relocation is never certain. 

I did a quick Google search for Pheonix crime rates, and this website popped up.  It might be helpful: http://phoenix.gov/police/crista1.html

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2009

What about northern California?  Already close to where you live and the whole Sacramento area is similar to what you’re looking for: hot summers, warm winters, no snow, they do get rain but this winter they got way more rain than what they usually get, affordable suburb areas, etc…  The only problem with CA is that they do have higher taxes than most (all?) states, and coming from Oregon, that might be a shock.  πŸ™‚  Hmmmmmmm, or Oklahoma?  Reasonable living prices, similar weather (maybe a little snow, but not much), etc…

I don’t mean to be a downer on AZ; lots of people love living there!  I just saw no one had responded, and thought I would try to help you out.

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

I grew up in Phoenix. Also lived in Tucson for 7 years (approx. 2 hours south of Phx).

To answer your Qs about Phx . . .

Is Arizona a nice place to live and raise a family? We have a toddler so I am concerned with schools, safety etc. Like anywhere else, check out the different neighborhoods and school districts. Some areas are rough. Others are very new and safe. I’d check out the crime stats too. It’s a big city and there is crime. Growing up, I didn’t experience any violent crime. Our house was robbed 2x – but it was just teens from the neighborhood going through all the houses in the area (not that it makes it any better – teens vs. career criminals).

The rental prices are way less than up here from what I’ve seen. Fiance could transfer with his work and I’m a Stay-At-Home Mom. Rents were less $$ in AZ than any other place I have lived. Again, just watch the neighborhood. Some are more expensive than others. I can’t comment on which neighborhood to look at anymore. Every time I go back, there are new developments and massive sprawl. Also, realize your air conditioning bill will be high. Growing up, ours was almost as high as our mortgage. Many homes have pools too – so this is another monthly upkeep cost if you go this route.

Are people generally friendly to non Hispanics? Yes. I always recall a mix of cultures. I’m Caucasian. We learned Spanish in school which was nice. Phx. does tend to be very conservative. Tucson is less so (college town) and has a lot of hippies.

I love hot weather and sunshine.  You have to love the heat to live there!! πŸ™‚ It’s nice to have so much sunshine year-round, but the summers are HOT and dry. Have you experienced a really hot day? Maybe go down in July or August to see what it feels like – if  you haven’t already. Growing up, I never knew anything else. Since moving away, now when I go back, I just can’t handle the heat. I feel like I can’t breathe on those really hot days. A day of 120 something would kill me now. Also, the desert can get cold in the winter (well cold for me anyway :)). There’s not really other weather issues. There are monsoons – big storms, but that’s about it. But, looking back, people just learned to live with the weather – same as people who live in the snow. You don’t go out running the summer afternoon, you always have water with you and in your car, you do things in the morning and evening, etc.

There was good outdoor activities – hiking, etc. There were lots of activities for kids. I recall community centers, parks, and community activities.

It has a large snow-bird population – so increases in population in the winter and then people clear out in the hot summer months.

A lot of people absolutely love Phx. and the surrounding areas. However, it was never a good fit for me, which is why I left Phx right after I graduated high school. I wanted out since I was little. I personally didn’t like the suburban sprawl – house after house that all blended together. Strip mall after strip mall. It’s not a walking city. I don’t know, it just wasn’t what I wanted. I ended up moving to NYC and now to LA. But, that’s what makes cities great – everyone one is different and has something for each individual personality. If you can, I would spend a week or longer there. Just to get a sense of the different areas, the feel, and the weather.

Post # 8
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

Hot.

Crazy conservative politics.

Hot.

I’m moving to CA instead πŸ™‚

Post # 8
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2009

Darling Husband has been trying to convince me to move to Arizona for years. We will be visiting friends in Goodyear (near Phoenix) this August so we’ll see how I like it. The housing prices are definitely better than where we are living now, I’m just not sure I would be able to find a job like the one I currently have (its a pretty specific role).

Also, most (I would assume all) houses have air conditioning and either have a pool or have access to a pool. Is there any way you can visit before making a decision?

Post # 10
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Bumble bee

Phoenix is incredible. Really. Chandler, Mesa, Maricopa. All excellent suburbs.

What you have to understand about the heat is that there is a difference between heat in the desert and heat in most other parts of the country. It really is a dry heat. It lacks moisture which causes humidity. So what is 110 there, is not 110 in St. Louis (where I’m from), or along the beaches.

Phoenix has ASU, which I believe is the largest college campus in the country. You are going to have people of all different backrounds, origins, religions, colors, etc. So, while I am a touch put off by your comment of people “being nice to non-hispanics,” I’ll let it slide to point out that it’s not 95% hispanic and 5% other. HUGE melting pot of people.

I am so jealous that you have the ability to move there. I’ll visit you any time! πŸ˜€

Post # 12
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Hmm… I wouldn’t really call it “crazy conservative politics”. It isn’t as much of a “red state” as people tend to think. I actually believe AZ is somewhat moderate (leaning to the right) when you consider all counties as a whole. For example, Tucson and the rest of Pima County tend to lean left (see Gabby Giffords, elected Democrat). I guess the only thing that most people in AZ really agree on is illegal immigration — but you get that when you live right at the border and experience it firsthand. And it’s not like the debate seeps into their every day lives, that’s way overdramatic.

OP, I think your view of AZ is a bit narrow. People are certainly kind to “non-hispanics” — there are lots of races and cultures there. I actually never saw or experienced racism firsthand until I moved to the East Coast — and I lived in AZ for over two decades. In fact, the thing I loved most about AZ was the people. People were super kind, very friendly. Strangers wave and say hello rather than shoulder you out of the way to get where they’re going. Small town atmosphere for sure.

I personally am not a big fan of Phoenix, it’s a HUGE city and very, very hot. Many places in AZ are much more reasonable in temperature (Tucson is usually about 10 degrees cooler; northern AZ is much cooler as well). In Southern AZ, winters definitely get colder than 50-60 though. 30-40 is not uncommon, and nights are almost always below freezing in the middle of winter.

@sweetkate: lol, you will definitely get a taste of the REAL AZ visiting Phoenix in August. Be ready to sweat πŸ™‚

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

My sister just came back from living in Polacca (WAY out there) and liked it. It’s definitely a change for us east-coasters (any coasters for that matter!). She was able to haul off and go to insane beautiful parks to hike on a whim. The only thing about Arizona that concerns me (well Phoenix/Tucson at least) is that it’s a desert and environmentally speaking, not really equipped to handle the population/development that it does. And, my sis seconded PP comments about sprawl and jobs being difficult to find. But–people have been living there for quite a while now, and it seems to have worked so far.

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2012

I was born and raised in Tucson, and while I would love the opportunity to leave someday, I know I would come back eventually. I hate the heat, I truly do (of course I dream of the gray skies of the Pacific NW, haha!) but it is pretty amazing to live in a place where the sun shines (insert exaggeratingly high percentage) of the year.

Yes, Arizona get a bad rep for it’s politics, but obviously not everyone is like that.

I was raised to hate Phoenix for the sheer fact that ASU is there (Go Cats!! Hehe!) but it does have some great culture and shopping.

Lastly, like you said, you have access to California, Mexico, Vegas, and surrounding mountains for close, cheap, great vacations without the high cost of actually living in those places!

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