(Closed) Can anyone who works in HR or possibly HR law help me out???

posted 5 years ago in Career
Post # 3
Member
2622 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

I dont know about legally, but I would contact that job you interviewed for and let them know that she was waiting to get permission from you, which you have not given to the HR lady and that she indicated she is really busy and that maybe they should try calling her again.

Question, why is the HR lady your reference? Wouldnt your boss be a better reference since she worked directly with you? Most HR references can only confirm your tasks and the fact you are employed there. Bosses will give the details that can help get you the job.

 

Post # 4
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3683 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

@ThreeMeers:  The HR lady wasn’t her reference.  She’s the point of contact at her current position so the place where she’s applying for the job can verify employment.

Post # 5
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2622 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

@strawbabies:  thanks for the clarification, got it all confused.

 

I would still send the email, just make the context appropriate for the HR lady’s role.

Post # 7
Hostess
2557 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

I really don’t have any other advice than what PP have said, but I wanted to say I feel your pain.  Your HR lady sounds exactly likes ours.

Post # 9
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205 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

Wow she’s horrible!

I would stop being a model employee for a company that is screwing you over. I would basically go to work but do nothing, and when asked if I had done something I would say “oh it’s on my list of things to do”. And find another reference from your office, like a colleague or friend, who can pretend to be HR and verify your employment. And make sure to call in sick regularly too. Especially when you know they need you.

Just watch the movie “Office Space”. That’s what you should do.

Post # 10
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3093 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

I don’t think this will stop them from pursuing you if they want you for the job.

 

I had both a non-responsive HR/boss whatever because they were out of town, and the job that was waiting on the reference just kept letting me know they tried reaching them, tried again, etc etc until they did finally get the info they needed and I got the job.

 

I also got a hmm how would I say, “warning” as part of a reference from a company I quit from due to their unsafe practices…it went to court and everything and I WON…still they warned the hiring job that I “couldn’t handle” the job I had. 

Again the job that was interested in hiring me contacted me and let me explain…I got hired there too.

 

All hope is not yet lost!

Post # 11
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11760 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

there’s no way you wouldn’t get a job because 1 reference didn’t call them back in a timely manner. 

Post # 12
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6746 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2014

Call the job you’re interested in and explain that you just found out that your HR lady hasn’t called them back, that you’re very interested in the position, to call her again and if there’s any other way you could verify your employment? 

Post # 13
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3887 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

Many companies will not give actual recommendations or references, and will only verify that you were employed on the dates you said you were, and whether or not you are eligible for rehire. This is a legal thing where a HR person saying the wrong thing, even if true, can open the company up for lawsuits, so many companies have policies that the employment verification basically can only be a yes or no answer to those two questions.

From a legal standpoint there is nothing you can do, for a lot of reasons starting with there not being a way to prove that you did not get a job due to lack of response to the other company’s inquiry.  There is also nothing that says another employee can’t ask you if you’re pregnant. Your HR lady may be slow, unresponsive, and not have good interpersonal skills, but those things are not illegal, so you just have to let that go.

I would ask my immdiate supervisor to write a letter of recommendation on company letterhead and provide that for any company who needs to check references. Most managers are happy to do this unless there is a company policy against it.  I like to get one from my manager any time I change jobs; too many times a potential employer has been unable to verify my employment because the employer company got bought or acquired by a parent company who never had a record of me because I never actually worked for the new parent company, or just plain went out of business.

Post # 14
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45637 posts
Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

I’m hoping that the response from @ChloeTM2707:  was sarcasm. Whatever you do, do not retaliate by behaving poorly at work. The only persone who will be hurt by such actions wold be yourself.

Post # 15
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6042 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: September 2017

@Robin_Sparkles:  I used to work in HR. I can tell you that this will not reflect poorly on you specifically. I can also tell you that if you are the candidate that they want over all others, than having to wait on your employer (not you) to call them back is not going to make them say screw it we are hiring someone else. It is in very poor taste though that this woman has not returned their phone call. It is a huge peeve of mine when people don’t return communications back like emails, phone calls, etc. Its not that hard and it drives me mad when their lack of attention to stuff like this can potentially affect someone else, as is the case with this woman and her decision not to call back right away

Also, for future use, I would have a manager or your supervisor write you a letter of recommendation that states your dates of employment which could benefit you in more ways than one. Unfortunately, employment verification falls low on a lot of HR departments priority list. So to avoid having to wait on something like this in the future I would get something in writing that could be used in place of a direct phone call. We do this for our employees upon their request.

Post # 16
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2782 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

@Robin_Sparkles:  That sounds about right to me… Your employer cannot give out any information on your without your consent, regardless of how they got the number. HR doesn’t have to talk to your potential new employer either, they can refuse, it’s their right. So you really can’t comlain about. And any person can ask you if you’re pregnant, it’s just your choice whether or not you answer them. I wouldn’t make a fuss, these people could very well make you have a very hard time finding a new job, you have to play ball.

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