Post # 46
kawood0618 : Agree with you completely, thank you for saying all of this. My husband and I really wanted a beagle and scoured the internet for shelters for one that was “calling out” to us. We found one a few states away and she’s been home with us for almost 2 years 🙂
Post # 47
Not reading through everything but if you have your heart set on a doodle you can find a breed specific rescue! That’s where we got our cat. A specific breed was good for allergies and I found a kitty that needed a home on the breed specific rescue. 🙂
Post # 48
A few thoughts…You can find purebred dogs in rescue. I have two purebred Weims who I adopted. I also foster for a Weim rescue and have fostered several purebreds that were then adopted by other people. You can also find puppies in rescue. I know this because I have fostered pregnant momma dogs who were pulled from shelters, gave birth to their puppies in my home and then other people adopted those puppies. It is ok if you don’t want to adopt a dog and if you just really want to go to a breeder and get a puppy. Just be honest about it and don’t make it seem like you can’t get what you want from a rescue or a shelter. Otherwise you sound like you feel guilty about your decision.
Also, anything that ends in doodle is a mutt. There is no such thing a purebred doodle….
And one more thing…..I don’t think you will be getting your deposit back.
Post # 49
It’s very hard here (uk) to rehome a dog when you have young children. We have dogs from a breeder (spaniels) and I’m pleased I know their full history. I’d consider a rescue only if I was never around small children. Most dogs here in rescues seem to be staffies which I wouldn’t want either (pit bulls are banned here as a dangerous breed).
OP – I hope you are able to get your deposit back and bring your new puppy home soon!
Post # 50
you won’t go to a shelter because you want to “choose your breed”
so you’re paying hundreds of $ for a mutt?
Post # 51
Allaboutthedogs : many breeds are not available in shelters. My family has Afghan hounds – it would be very rare to see one of those in a shelter, especially a puppy.
Besides, people shouldn’t feel guilty for buying from a reputable breeder, even if it’s a breed more commonly found in shelters. Some people want to have a relationship with the person they are buying a dog from, and know their history. I have never thought that someone sounded guilty because they preferred not to look at rescues and shelters, regardless of their preferred breed.
Post # 52
- Wedding: January 2021 - City, State
Hemnes : can i ask why you wouldn’t want one? I was the same before my Fiance came along and brought his staffy with him
hes a great dog!
Post # 53
kawood0618 : Absolutely. I agree with you 100%. It is completely my opinion that people who buy from breeders, reputable or otherwise, have not given shelters and rescues enough research. I also think they are selfish to a certain extent. I don’t care how “reputable” a breeder is. Anyone who thinks that the poor souls who end up in shelters are not good enough for their lifestyle do not deserve to have pets. It sounds harsh, but imagine if we chose our children in the same way.
There are many shelters and rescues that vet possible owners, check up on the fur babies after adoption, and offer a trial period. As well, buying a puppy from a breeder guarantees nothing regarding temperament. With a year or two-old rescue dog, their personality is already established. You know what you’re getting. And if they had a tough life before, do they deserve to be punished for that by having designer dogs or purebreds picked over them?
And yes, buying from breeders contributes to the overcrowding in shelters. That’s not even a question. When you adopt from a shelter, you’re saving a life.
Post # 54
courtneysokal : We do choose our children the same way, though……..
In human child terms, you’re saying that people who have their own children have not given adoption and the foster care system enough research. That it’s selfish to have our own children. That anyone who thinks that the poor souls who end up in foster care aren’t worthy of their lifestyle and those people don’t deserve to have a child.
That having our own children contributes to overcrowding in the foster care system. When you adopt or foster a kid, you’re saving a life. Otherwise you’re basically killing one, as has been implied in this thread many times.
I legitimately don’t see the difference. Yet so many people will never consider adopting a child, because they want their own, and no one blinks an eye. Double standard much?!
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pinkisthenewblue : I am not saying that someone should feel guilty or that they do feel guilty for getting a dog from a breeder. What I am saying is that people make themselves sound like they feel guilty when they say I couldn’t get a dog from a rescue or shelter because it is simply impossible to get a purebred dog or a puppy from either of those places. Since there are rescues and shelters who have purebred dogs and puppies, that is not a true statement. Why even say it? If someone simply wants a dog from a breeder, they should not come up with excuses, just say they wanted to get the dog from the damn breeder!
Post # 57
pinkisthenewblue : 🙌 Yes! To all of that!
Also if someone can find me a leonberger in a shelter in NZ I would gladly adopt. But it doesn’t happen. Virtually every dog in a shelter here is some form of pitbull/staffy/rottie cross and they come with a huge stigma, higher registration fees, and tougher rules. I couldn’t buy one of those dogs and give it the life it deserves, I would just be too scared.
Post # 58
Allaboutthedogs : have you seen many Afghan hounds or Portuguese Water Dogs or Salukis in shelters in Canada? Because I haven’t. It’s not as simple as you seem to think unless you want a pretty common breed. It’s not impossible to get “a” purebred from a shelter but most people who want purebreds want a certain breed, not just any purebred.
Post # 59
pinkisthenewblue : We don’t euthanize children in the foster system or those up for adoption. So there is one difference. But some of what you said is true actually, and to an extent we do chose our children that way, and I disagree with that too. But that’s a different topic which was recently discussed on WB.
As far as animals go, we are not able to birth them ourselves. We have a choice in how we acquire them. And it often is literally a life or death situation for the creatures. It makes me intensely sad.
Post # 60
courtneysokal : that’s kinda my point…we euthanize way too many. So blame the assholes who breed dogs and sell them on Craigslist for $200, and the people who support these people by buying them, and blame the assholes who dump these dogs in a shelter with zero foresight. Don’t blame the breeders who have spent decades dedicating their entire lives breeding dogs to a breed standard that has been around for hundreds or thousands of years, who keep tabs on their dogs and only sell to homes they vet, who only breed a litter every year or two, who get their dogs from the shelter if one slips through the cracks. They’re not the ones to blame and neither are the people who buy from them.
I think we all agree that shelter life is awful and we’d love to see no dogs euthanized ever. We disagree on who is to blame.
The only reason we don’t euthanize children in the foster care system is because it’s illegal, whereas animals are seen as disposable, which is why some people also eat them (dogs included).