Post # 32
Curious to what you ended up doing here.
Also, shame on you guys who point out that she “legally” has a right. BS! This is someone’s wedding! In no way is Bluebride obligated to welcome this guest or her dog to her wedding.
I am not a “dog person”, but probably would have been ok with the uninvited four-legged guest if it were presented in the right way. The aunt really should have confirmed that detail with the bride and groom.
Post # 33
I’d let her do it. Its for a great purpose. If she wanted to bring her pomeranian in a pink duffle bag, just because she doesn’t want to leave her alone, then you’d have a problem. But since that’s not the case, I’d let her bring it. The only concern I’d have is allergies. Is it possible to see if anyone has any severe allergy to dogs? Or any fear of dogs for that matter. Barring those issues, it sounds harmless.
Post # 34
And it really bothers me that people keep saying she can “practice” with the dog elsewhere. And that this isn’t the proper social occasion for her to “practice.” It’s not practice people it’s life! I just truly can’t get over the selfishness in this thread (not necessarily you original poster, I’m referring to comments made). This dog HAS to be with the trainer at all times. The dog and trainer have the same exact rights as a lead dog and it’s owner…
Post # 35
According to law, service dogs are allowed in all public and private facilites as long as they are with the owner.
Post # 36
I’ll preface this by saying that I’m one of the biggest dog lovers you’ll ever meet and I wish my parents’ dog could come to my wedding (but she’s the WORST behaved dog on the face of the earth).
I think it was really not OK of her not to mention it to you guys first. All of the talk on here about “what if it was someone’s service dog?” is pointless and off-topic because that isn’t the situation. I’m sure the OP would not be upset about the dog if it were a blind relative and guest’s service dog as she (or her Fiance, or somebody)would have known that the dog comes with the territory for that guest.
I would let it go personally but maybe find out if any guests are severely allergic or if like a PP said there is anyone with a fear of dogs. To those people, the fact that it is a service animal is a moot point because their allergies or mental fear of dogs doesn’t discriminate.
Post # 37
As I believe another poster mentioned…while the venues legally must allow the dog to be present, the bride does not. She can choose who attends her own events.
I think you have the right to be confused by the situation. You said that this aunt has gone ELSEWHERE without the dog. So why does she HAVE to bring the dog this time? Seems like kind of a part-time trainer to me…a little fishy to insist the dog HAS to be everywhere you are, but then the dog ISN’T always where you are…that isn’t how the training program works. I’m skeptical of the aunt and her motivations…
Post # 38
Like Jennifer just pointed out, this would be a problem for me because my step dad has sevre allergies to animal hair. I mean if the dog was far enough away from him it would not be a problem, and if a disabled person was coming to my wedding, I would def. let them bring their dog, and just let Step dad know that it was coming, but I don’t know what I would do if a large group of people who were allergic to animal hair were coming to my wedding cause then I would think it near impossible for them to stay far away from the dog, so yea I would def, check that.
But regardless I don’t think I would be comfrtable with it unless the dog is trained, and I mean out of his begging for scraps and jumping on people stage. I mean the Aunt is not disabled herself. I don’t know, It’s a tough situation. I would ask her if the dog is well tranined now, and if it is I would allow it.
Post # 39
It’s funny how quickly some people on here are ready to tell me that I’m crazy for even thinking that this situation is a little odd. I’m just asking what people think, I don’t need a lecture about how great serice dogs are and how I can’t do anything about it because the dog has rights. Even if she doesn’t need to ask me if its ok for her to bring the dog, I just think it was rude for her to not mention it to us any of the last times she’s seen us. I know they do great things and I know they need to learn. But the damn dog didn’t put her name on the RSVP 🙂
I do appreciate people mentioning the allergy thing though. I hadn’t thought about it at all I know there are a couple people in the wedding (and I’m sure some who will be at the wedding) who have animal allergies. I don’t think any of them are severe enough to be triggered by one dog in the same room, but I’ll have to check… one more thing to add to my list.
Post # 40
I totally understand that if you don’t want dogs at the wedding, you wouldn’t invite her. And if this weren’t a dog-in-training or a service dog, I’d definitely say no as well. But if she’s an invited guest already, and this is indeed a dog-in-training as you mentioned, you unfortunately, can’t say no. You can look this all up on the ADA (American’s With Disabilities Act).
Post # 41
Oh gosh. I’d be really nervous having a dog in training at my wedding.
There is no question, she should have talked to you about it (months before the wedding, not 3 weeks before the wedding). Since she goes places with out the dog, then its reasonable to ask her to keep the dog at home if you are uncomfortable having the dog at the wedding.
Obviously if the dog was fully trained this would be a non-issue.
Post # 42
Miss Biner I think you’ve now posted incorrect legal information three times. It is very upsetting since people might be misled.
Post # 43
BleuBride: Here is the ADA act. Do not feel bad if you do not want the dog there – despite the incorrect information that other posters are given to you – excluding a service animal from your wedding is well within your rights. I think it’s horrible that people are trying to make you feel bad about this – especially since it’s obvious that having the dog there makes you uncomfortable.
ADA only protects individuals with disabilities (which is not the case with your wedding) – not service dogs in training.
“Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.”
“You may exclude any animal, including a service animal, from your facility when that animal’s behavior poses a direct threat to the health or safety of others.”
Post # 44
As far as I can tell, it’s only illegal across the board to deny admission to a service animal when that animal is fully certified and the guardian is disabled. Laws vary state by state as to whether it is illegal to deny entrance to a service dog still in training accompanied by a trainer (i.e. a non-disabled guardian).
ETA: Legality isn’t even the issue here. It’s really I think a matter of the aunt not having discussed this with you until now and I think, yes, you have a right to be put off by that.
Post # 45
If you want information about this here is the link.
I think the last question can answer the question of legally allowed. If the dog is dissruptive then it can be excluded.
Post # 46
I think all the bases have been pretty much covered with the dog issue, but I’m going to agree with you that it was rude of her not to mention it. She should have said something about it, especially since she does not bring the dog everywhere.
@Miss Biner- We get your point, as you have stated it 3 times already. As Arachna said, it’s a private event and the bride has a right to exclude people from the event for any reason she wishes. She can, in fact, say no. If the event were public, then she would have to allow it.