Can I get opinions on this diamond

posted 2 months ago in Rings
Post # 2
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Bumble bee

Why is it in black and white? Do you have a colour video or pics? Makes me suspicious that the diamond might be yellow…. 

Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

Depending on where the light source is in the first picture, diamonds (even excellent/ideal cuts) appear dark in direct light. What is the cut grade of this stone? I would also look at the depth and other ratios on the certification to feel as mind clean as you can without actually seeing it in person. Hope this helped! 

Post # 4
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Blushing bee

ariesscientist :  it’s in color, top picture look at the top and you can see some machine with a blue label 

Post # 6
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Blushing bee

Is it GIA or AGS certified? All other certifications are considered to be less reliable.  Can you post the specs for the diamond (depth %, crown angle, pavilion angle, etc)? FWIW, even poorly cut diamonds look great under jewelery store lighting, which I assume is where the video was taken.  Can they send you a video of it outside under natural light and under regular diffused office lighting?  

Post # 8
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Sugar bee

You can’t tell anything from the photo. It’s from much too far away, it’s blurry, and the lighting is poor. You need to see the report, and it should be AGS or GIA. Then we can look at the angles to evaluate cut, which is the most important criteria. Assuming it’s GIA, it needs to be graded excellent. GIA “very good” should actually be GIA “okay”. And GIA “good” should be called GIA “bad”.

Post # 9
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Bumble bee

acornsandapples : Ahh okay, I see it now. I don’t think the pics are very good, the lighting seems off, I have zoomed in on the diamond and can see some brown now too. 

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper

I would get a much closer photo of that before purchase.  It’s too far to see the correct clarity grade.

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2018 - Four Seasons Hotel Los Angeles at Beverly Hills

The first picture doesn’t look great but it is so hard to tell from a photo. If it’s GIA certified and a G color then it should be very white but if it’s another independent lab (besides AGS) G may not be accurate, as well as the clarity grade…an SI1 could really be an I1 by GIA standards if graded by a third party. And cut is king so if you find out it’s graded by GIA definitely make sure it is an excellent cut at the very least. 

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2005 - A Castle

Everyone has different Cs that they value more than others. For me, I would pass on this stone, go down in color, and get an excellent/ideal cut. I have a K colored, triple X diamond and it’s nothing but white to me. 

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2018 - Four Seasons Hotel Los Angeles at Beverly Hills

I personally would not go down to a good cut. Agreed with PP you could go down to a K and it would still face up white at this size and you can probably go down in clarity to an SI2 as well as long as you see the stone in person . lisag103 :  

Post # 15
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Blushing bee

Well the cut dimensions of the diamond are cut off in the picture of the certificate, but I can assume they aren’t complimentary based on the cut grade only being “good” (which really means “bad”) and the symmetry grade being “very good” (which really means “just ok”).  It also appears to be cut too shallow based on the LxWxD.  At a minimum, you should go for GIA ExExEx if you want any chance of having a well cut diamond.  A well cut diamond will appear larger, brighter and have less tint in lower colors, so cut isn’t something you should compromise on.  You can sacrifice in color (an I at this size is usually acceptable to most people, some will even happily go as low as a J or K).  SI1 clarity may or may not be eye clean (meaning basically you can’t detect the inclusions at a normal viewing distance of 8-10”), so an SI1 or below needs to be really analyzed if eye cleanliness is important to you.  Florescence at medium shouldn’t be an issue, but can in rare instances can cause cloudiness when strong-very strong.  Is this stone from a brick and mortar store?  You can really get more bang for your buck by shopping online. GL!

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