(Closed) Can I pass the moissanite off as a diamond?

posted 8 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Can I pass a 1.8 carat J colored cushion cut Amora Moissanite off as a diamond?

    Yes!

    No!

  • Post # 363
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

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    @Penelope.O:  They do make lab created diamonds although it is very difficult to actually produce a white colored diamond in a lab and it is even more rare for them to produce stones greater than 1 carat.

    Post # 364
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

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    @Otulyssa:  No disrespect to you, but you are actually the one that’s incorrect about diamonds being rare.  I’ve said this before, the Diavik Diamond Mine in Canada produces 8 million carats per year.  That’s one mine.  Look around you, everyone including their mothers, aunts, sisters and grandmothers have diamonds in all shapes and sizes.  If you did a quick internet search for a specific diamond that you may be looking for, you’ll probably find it within minutes.  Also, as others have said, diamonds can and have been created in a lab.  Lab created stones have the exact same properties as a mined stone.  allergicbee was correct that colorless diamonds are harder to make and can only be made in smaller sizes.  However, now that they have figured out how to make them, Gemesis will continue to try to make and perfect them in larger sizes.  

    There’s nothing wrong with preferring a diamond, but they are far from being rare.

    Post # 365
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    The big one is my friend’s – she has 2ct moissanite

    The smaller one is my 1 carat diamond. 

    I can’t tell the difference. 

    Why would anyone even ask?  My friend told me hers was moissanite, but I wouldn’t dare ask.

    Post # 366
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

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    @jouissance:  both are gorgeous! Although I love your setting a bit more since I <3 split shanks 🙂

    Post # 367
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: July 2014

    I would never try to pass it off as a diamond – but I wouldn’t feel the need to tell people about it’s diamond status either way.   Most will never know but there are some that will know.

    I would notice that you have a moissy because I’ve looked at buying them and I just know how they behave in light.  I like it but it’s not the same as diamond.  

    I would think quite lowly of someone who told me their moissy was diamond when I could tell it’s not.   I would never think lowely of someone who wore moissy and never discussed it openly… I’d just assume they were rocking it with pride (as one should!).  I’m even ok with people who are loud and proud about their alternative choices in stones… but I understand that’s not your situation.

     

    Post # 368
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: January 2010

    “If you place diamonds inside the human body they will not trigger an immune response.”<<<Can you do THAT with a synthetic stone? HA HA! 

    (See: http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/earth/rock-minerals/diamonds/diamond-properties/index.html

    “The upper levels [of Earth] erode over hundreds of millions of years and expose any diamonds they are carrying.” <<<I hope to see scientists in labs move the crust of the earth someday. That would be awesome. 

    Wear what you want, but quit with the diamond bashing already! A lot the “other” stone wearers gripe about how people put them down. Are you kidding me? Most people—including many of the dreaded diamond owners—tell you how pretty your rings are. (…And they are pretty! Geez!)

    Very frequent diamond-bashing goes on in the ring boards. I know others must be annoyed by this. I can’t be alone on this front! 

    Humankind cannot synthetically replicate the value of authentic fossils, gems, etc. that emerge naturally from the Earth over millions (or possibly even billions) of years.

    I also like to think of this argument as similar to the ways the value of art is assessed. Humankind can replicate Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Claude Monet, or Michelangelo paintings until the end of time, but those replicas do not have the value of the originals created by the actual artists. Linear, chronological history (as well as the narrative) behind artifacts is what makes them precious.

    The love, history, and narrative represented by an engagement ring makes it precious—but if it’s not a diamond ring, it’s simply not a diamond ring. If it’s not a sapphire, it’s not a sapphire, and so on. (The logic is “This is not that!” That is all.) 

    Can other stones be pretty? Can other stones represent an engagement? Can an engagement occur with or without a ring being presented? Absolutely, so please don’t misunderstand what I’m trying to add to the conversation here. 

    Post # 369
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: January 2010

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    @Lovenewbooks:  A “synthetic” diamond would have exactly the same properties as a “natural” diamond. So yeah, I CAN say that if a natural would not cause an immune response neither would a synthetic. I have no ideas what natural moissanite would do in the human body, but synthetic moissanite would do the same.

    Post # 370
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    Buzzing Beekeeper

    This is now just getting silly.

     

    Post # 371
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2009 - Mountain Meadow/Mansion

    I had never heard of Moissy before the bee. I think it’s beautiful, and I applaud OP for finding a way to prioritize seeing her Fiance and still having her needs met (Having done long distance for over a year where it took a whole day of flying to see one another, I can appreciate this tremendously). It’s clever, and congrats OP on your future engagement!

    That being said, I think that what is rubbing folks the wrong way is the “pass off” piece. Generally speaking, I don’t think people are tactless enough to ask, but if they do (which I really can’t imagine happening often if ever) it just seems/feels disingenuous to lie about it. It doesn’t affect me (or any of us, frankly) what OP decides to do, so it really doesn’t matter in the scheme of things, but I think the potential false representation is what is getting the strong reaction.

    Good luck with your choice, OP, and enjoy your engagement!

    Post # 372
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    Newbee

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    @MrsBlueSeptember:  Thank you for saying that. Diamonds are NOT rare and people who think that are very misinformed!

    Post # 373
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: January 2010

    The source listed is a legit source. Just saying.

    I was trying to be slightly silly in the first part of my comment (note the “ha ha”) there. I put the source there for a reason, too, to back my claims and not just wantonly throw out opinions or other assertions that make no sense (like so many others do). My comment was not silly at all. In fact, it’s quite logical. It’s not in this thread, I don’t think, but what I find truly silly is when people say diamonds aren’t all that pretty in other threads on this issue. What a bunch of uneducated nonsense. 

    The other person called out the word “synthetic” being used and ignored the rest of the comment. Whatever. Read the source. I didn’t make up that claim! I usually stay out of these debates, but the logical fallacies being thrown around here got on my nerves enough to add a comment. 

     

    Post # 374
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    Newbee

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    @Lovenewbooks:  Of course I think Diamonds are pretty, I agree it’s stupid if someone has a stone that looks like a Diamond and says that. If you have a Moissanite, Asha, White Sapphire, or any other white stone you would sound like a hyppocrite by saying you don’t think Diamonds are pretty. 

    Post # 375
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2012

    Not trying to thread jack here, but after we solve this pressing dilemma can anyone tell me if I can change the “H” on my Honda Civic to an “A”? I want people to think it’s an Acura. Because my honey is NOT cheap.

    Post # 376
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    Newbee

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    @khf777:  Maybe you could buy the symbol on Ebay 😉 

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