Post # 92
@angela2011bride: I don’t think she was saying that you have to live 100% green and conflict free. I mean, even vegans don’t do it 100%. I think she is saying that there are people who are aware of the diamond industry practices and just don’t care. I’ve seen women on these boards say “I don’t care what happened before my diamond was on my finger. That’s not my problem” or “Who cares what happens in Africa.” I think she was pointing those people out.
Post # 94
Can’t we all just get along and enjoy the fact that someone in this world loves you and got you a ring. YOU’RE GETTING MARRIED!!!! YAY
Post # 95
Maureen – It’s NOT even close to the same and I am in no way trying to discount our military men and women. It was absolutely a bad analogy and I apologize for that.
MissTattoo – I know who she was pointing out – that doesn’t make her justified in her actions.
Post # 97
Your last line there is what I was going to say.
I’m sorry, but if I see someone with a diamond, no, I’m not going to judge you. As I said, lots of friends and family own diamonds and either have/had no idea about the conflict, received it as a gift or have tried to purchase conflict free diamonds. At the very least, they actually care about the issue in the sense that they love their ring but feel something for those people. However, if you tell me that yes, you do know the whole history of diamonds and that the person that found yours probably died for it and that it causes suffereing and that you’re okay with that, then sorry, but I would judge that decision, I guess. Yes, its a product for sale so of course it’s your right to wear it. But at the same time, its another persons right to feel passionately about that issue and make a judgement.
To put it another way, if someone was wearing a pendant with a symbol and it ended up being something that most likely belonged to a genocide victim and they didn’t know or weren’t aware of that or someone had gotten for them as a gift or something, well, no I’m not going to judge them for that. However, if they say they knew that it most likely belonged to someone that had suffered and been killed for it to be obtained but that they just don’t care that much about that sort of thing and it’s their choice to wear it and they don’t want to ever have any one judge them for that – well, that would be difficult. Wouldn’t you then judge the actions of one who says ‘I just don’t care’ or ‘well, if I wasn’t wearing it then no one would ever think about that victim’ or something that’s a bit difficult to swallow.
It’s such an interesting but difficult topic. On one hand, I feel strongly about this type of thing. On the other hand, I know that lots of people like them and wear them including my own friends and family and I have never once judged them for it. But I can understand that some people might because it is one of those controversial things. And you are right, its very hard to live a totally conflict free life. But I agree with some other pp that it doesn’t mean that you don’t try to do what you can where you can.
Post # 98
People judge others. It happens and it will continue to happen.
Assumptions are what annoy me.
Post # 99
I never said that anywhere. I asked hypothetically if that person was CARING about the ethics. That was my point.
Post # 101
luckyprincress – I understand you, I do. And I don’t disagree, except with the judging part. I know it’s human nature to do it and as troubled said it will continue to happen, but that doesn’t make it ok. You don’t know the situation, even if you think you do. This is a topic that we will keep circling round and round about, it’s not going away anytime soon. But in the end, your choice to wear a gemstone is the same as my choice to wear a diamond. And I don’t know whether it is conflict free or not, but I do know that my fiance gave it to me because he loves me, and I wear it with pride knowing that he wants to marry me. So at the end of the day.. That’s that.
Post # 102
@angela2011bride: Thank you! I try, I try.
Post # 103
@angela2011bride: What. The. Feck. Your argument (re: US military and especially the fur farming/animal skinning thing as they somehow….*somehow* relate to diamond mining….) is possibly the craziest I have ever heard. Thank you for the laugh