(Closed) Can we talk about Blurred Lines?

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Post # 107
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Bee Keeper

I don’t know what the lyrics are (beyond “blah blah blah blah blah, blurred lines” x1000), but I know the melody, and I just… really don’t find it catchy at all. And they guy is so plain and old looking. It’s obvious he’s trying to hide/stave off by starving the impending beer belly and middle aged guy face (FI calls it “pancake face”) that nature is bestowing upon him. I don’t have a problem with old-looking vocalists but it’s sad when they try to hide it with a “youth costume” like he does. It’s not fooling me. And vocalists should be able to sing. On the VMAs he just sounded like some random dude belting stuff out, not like a real singer in any way.

I mean, there’s NOTHING there, and people are saying his music video and lyrics are sexist at best? Talk about batting below zero. Is he just rich and well-connected, and this song has been blasted into people’s ears so much they now think they like it? Or do people actually like it? Neither Fiance or I can make heads or tails of this overnight “celebrity”.

I mean, the song just sounds… sad. “Blah blah blah blah blah, blurred lines” in this sad whiney tone to this sad depressing go-nowhere melody. I don’t get it.

Post # 108
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

I think it’s rapey because it’s basically a white dude whining about how all the “good girls” he meets aren’t just wearing a sign on their foreheads that says “I Will Bang You Right Now” and he doesn’t want to go to the trouble of asking for consent like an adult and instead just wants to take bets on “blurred lines” (which probably wouldn’t be blurred if he actually respected his partner and found out what she wanted). He’s not actually bothering to ask her what she wants; he just assumes that she wants it and that her job is to say no, not that it’s his job to ask her if she wants to have sex.

I think Miley’s mash up performance of this and “We Can’t Stop” at the VMAs last night clearly showed that whereever sexism exists in the music industry, racism isn’t too far behind. Racism and sexism aren’t just blatant, horrific acts of oppression and violence; often, they can be much more insidious and subtle; it might not be a man declaring, chest thumping “I WILL RAPE YOU RIGHT NOW,” but it sure as heck might be a guy saying I’m not going to take the time to find out if you want this or not.

Post # 109
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

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@corasong:  Huh? Where was racism in the VMA performance? I must have missed it inbetween the gyrations and teddy bears.

Post # 110
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

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@MsW-to-MrsM:  I think the part where Miley  simulated anilingus and slapped the ass of a black woman was pretty obviously racist. Especially when we think about how white people have historically viewed and used black bodies in this country.

Not to mention the fact that the whole video on which this performance was based basically uses black women as accesories in her “transformation” from Disney virgin to sexual being. Not to mention that she thinks this transformation is especially “edgy” because she wears grills and chains and throws up gang signs and claims to be “hood.” Did Miley grow up in the hood? Has she spent more than five minutes in the hood? No. She is a white girl who grew up in a mansion in rural Tennessee; she is now a multi-millionaire who wants to appropriate all the packaging of hip hop without any of the substance. She doesn’t want to talk about racial inequality or police violence or the murders of black youth that go unpunished in our court systems (all things that hip hop historically did and does address). She just wants to talk about how she gets to party and do whatever she wants while “twerking” with some black back up dancers.

And that’s really all I have to say on that. I’m not interested in a flame war with anyone; I’m not interested in waking up with 50 different messages on weddingbee telling me that Miley is “appreciating” black culture by slapping the asses of black women — as if that’s what it means to be truly “hood.” That sh*t was racist; it was offensive. I’m out.  *Drops mic*

Post # 111
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

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@corasong:  I think many times cries of racism are a reflection of the person making that claim. I watched the same video you did. It never occurred to me that there was a white girl on stage with black women. I saw a group of performers; skin color didn’t register. I’m not saying I am some perfect person who has never had a thought that stereotyped a member of another race, but I am hard-pressed to recall the different races displayed during that performance.

Post # 112
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2014

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@MsW-to-MrsM:  I believe saying “I don’t see color” is basically code for saying “I don’t want to see my whiteness and how it’s privileged over other races in this country.” It’s code for saying “I don’t want to think critically about race and racism and would rather wash my hands of it.” We have fundamentally different ways of looking at the world and I’m prepared to leave it at that.

 

Post # 113
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

This song is just terrible! it just won’t go away, God it’s like aids!

Post # 114
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Busy bee

Am I the only person out there who DOESN’T think Blurred Lines sounds rapey? There are multiple times in the song that imply hoping and consent. People that quote it as rapey remind me of people who grab a single sentence out of a paragraph in the Bible and then wave it around and shout about it.

 

Does “I’ll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two” sound gross and rapey? Sure. Unless it’s proceeded with “So hit me up when you passing through” which it is. It’s just a guy. With a big dong. Who is extending the offer for you to come sit on it.


Is the song classy? Naw. Rapey? Also no. Did I clutch my pearls in horror at the video? Not really. Everyone in it seemed pretty amused, and I don’t think topless women should be defaulted to sexual any more than topless men are.

Post # 115
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

The thing that gets me is when he says ‘You’re the hottest bitch in this place’

 

excuse me… bitch????????? 

 

Just gets me because so many songs refer to women as hos or bitches. 

Post # 116
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: December 2019 - City, State

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@Bracelet00:  I actually read it as being about cheating rather than rape, and that the blurred lines are of the “is this technically cheating? how about this?” variety. But I can see how it could be interpreted the other way too.

Post # 118
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

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@corasong:  I was too in awe of her butt to notice her skin colour. Seriously.

I think I remember red lipstick though… 

Post # 119
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Bee Keeper

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@Bracelet00:  I believe he himself admitted the song and/or video is derogatory to women, but I haven’t read the lyrics or watched the video so that’s not really why I’m replying to you.

Female human breast tissue enlarges at puberty as a sexual signal. It is much, much larger than that necessary for milk production, and most mammals only enlarge their breasts, and in a smaller, narrow shape, when lactating. The best explanation science has for why female humans have evolved to use round breast fat as a sexual signal is because we are bipedal. Our rounded, fat bums are no longer in the direct eyeline of our human male counterparts. We have therefore evolved a mini-bum on our front nearer to our face.

I know that whenever I’m talking to a woman showing a lot of cleavage, it’s always in my peripheral vision, drawing my attention (even though I don’t want it to, and I’m not actually into boobs myself) and I feel so much like I’m getting mooned I actually say things like “she just mooned me the entire time she was talking to me. I have no idea what she said, I was trying so hard not to look directly at it.”

So, women’s chests. Sexual signals.

Post # 120
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

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@corasong:  I knew what you were going to say before you even posted it. No, I didn’t think a single thing about the color of the people on that stage. You don’t want to believe that because you are blinded by your own racial bias. I’m sure you have gone through things that I never will. That doesn’t make you right in this situation. There is a divide in this country that is perpetuated by both sides.

I’ve no doubt that we have different cultural influences, but slapping a black woman’s butt during a performance on MTV – which has been raunchy since the day of its inception – is not a racist act. You are reaching really far on that one.

Also, didn’t all this nonsense with Miley being grown-up start a couple of years ago? MTV has always been trash. I’m not sure why people are so shocked by something Madonna would have done in the 80’s. I also find it interesting that so many self-proclaimed feminists on this site were quick to label her a whore and a walking STD in the Miley Cyrus thread.

Post # 121
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

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@joya_aspera:  The song does get very old very quickly. After the first two choruses. Sooooo much repetition. 

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