(Closed) Canada, homeowner pending charges for shooting armed home invader

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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: City, State

I live in Texas so yeah. Pretty bizarre to me. 

Post # 3
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Bee Keeper

its likely because they shot as they were fleeing/werent in danger any longer. Im confused about all the weapons charges though. 

of course it took off after it was posted on breitbart *eye roll*

Post # 4
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Busy bee

Ugh , Breitbart.  There’s a reliable news source lol

Post # 5
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Helper bee

mrstodd2bee :  my fiance is a police and his police partner told me once: “better judged by 12 then carried by 6.”  The sayings meaning is it is better to endure that you will lose your job, be put in a trial with a jury of 12 members, may be in jail and be infamous all of this … rather then be in a coffin that is carried by 6 of the brothers. 

Regardless of what the law says, I will shoot 3 burglars that come to my home. In the place I grew up we do not have jury trials at all. None at all. But I will still prefer to be judged by 1 judge, and may be go to jail, then die in my kitchen from a burglar. 

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: March 2011

I’m a card carrying member of the NRA.

Post # 7
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Honey Beekeeper
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 Canadian law is different than US Law in many aspects. Although the merits of each case would be examined individually, generally speaking you can defend yourself in your own home.

“This area is less grey than others. The rule of reasonable force still applies, but most judges will give you the benefit of the doubt,” Cohen says. “… You can use any force you deem necessary to remove the burglar from the house and eliminate the threat to yourself.”

“You could use a significant amount of force. If you knocked them out and rendered them unconscious, you will probably not be charged with assault,” Cohen adds. “But if he was retreating and you hit him in the head with a bat and he was [critically injured], you might have a problem.”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/self-defence-what-s-acceptable-under-canadian-law-1.1229180

This case seems to hinge on the fact that the intruders were fleeing.

Post # 10
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

 

mrstodd2bee :  The article says the charges are only pending, which means they haven’t actually been charged by the Crown yet.It is not unusual, both in the US and Canada,  for the police to list a whole slew of charges from the most serious to the minor.

On a re-read, it’s also interesting to note that one of the charges is possession for the purpose of trafficking- that likely explains the reason for the break-in.

Post # 11
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: March 2018

I carry.

You come into my home uninvited & threaten me with violence, you’re leaving in a body bag. 

Pending charges? For defending your home? Fuck outta here. 

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Sugar bee
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slomotion :  Down here that headline and article would be entirely different. 

Post # 13
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

cameobride :  It’s hard for me to get worked up when a drug dealer faces a potential rip off.

Post # 14
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Busy bee

mrstodd2bee :  I know.  Breitbart is using it to push their agenda.

Post # 15
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: February 2016

In the US, your risk of being killed during a home invasion is 0.0000002 per capita, via federal stats – effectively zero. Having a firearm in your home drastically increases the rate of unintentional homocide and suicide – see a round-up of peer-reviewed links here: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/01/good_guy_with_a_gun_myth_guns_increase_the_risk_of_homicide_accidents_suicide.html

But I’m sure all the PP are exceptions, not the rule. 

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