Post # 17
sneaky SOBs indeed.
For example: the cutting of the manditory long form census. A minor issue, sure, but it represents how they work.
Tony Clement said it was because of complaints about privacy, but there are not records of many complaints at all. He also at one point said it was on the advice of Stats Can. Not true. They just do what they want to do and then try to explain it with no good reasons.
Post # 18
I’m definitely not happy that the Conservatives got a majority, but at the moment I’m more concerned about the fact that 42% of eligible Canadian voters didn’t vote. Seriously, Canada, WTF?
Post # 19
@linguo42: yeah I know :S I think it says alot that we have so little interest in our own political system- discouraged? Stagnating? yeah those might be words Im sure some people are tempted to use in regards to Canadian politics. I personally am disappointed by the Conservative majority- Im sad that a govt that basically ushered out a major issue (the Afghan abuse issue) during the prog. of parliment, who is also trying to gag the committee that is over seeing it impartially, is now in power- theres nothing about Harper’s previous governmental decisions that give me any confidence in him to maintain a kind of national wellbeing and Canada that I believe in. I voted Liberal, but god I wish I had voted NDP (gone with my gut). Im glad they have the opposition tho, I just hope they take full advantage and put it to good use. I hope the Liberals also get their act together and figure out how to change things up next election.
Post # 20
@mommytobee: thank you!! hubba hubba!
@linguo42: I agree! Why don’t more Canadians vote? When one of my friends tell me they didn’t vote, I tell them their not allowed to complain about the government for the next four years!
Post # 21
@linguo42: It really makes me sad that more Canadians didn’t vote.
I was/am/will continue to be very sad about the majority for the cons.
It baffles me how they cut millions in funding in the settlement sector (services to assist newcomers in Canada) yet they went out in the GTA and convinced them to vote Cons. There wasn’t enough information given to new Canadians and it is REALLY sad.
I am happy for the NDP and hope that they can keep up the support.
Kind of sad for the Bloc. But NDP will hopefully stand up for the useful things the party did stand for.
Cons won’t work with anyone else… so I guess even if NDP has tons of seats, it won’t do any good.
Post # 22
@OttawaBride2011: I was debating commenting on this (@ScarletBegonia:too. Also, I agree with you re: long-gun registry and voter subsidies.
If people think Harper is a sneaky SOB that’s absolutely fine. I just think its important to consider that straying from or amending campaign promises is not something done by Conservatives alone. There aren’t too many politicians worthy of our trust, no matter their party. He’s a sneaky SOB among many sneaky SOBs. That said, politics aren’t static. A lot changes in the course of 4 years and what made sense during a campaign might not be so sensible down the road.
Post # 23
@forforever: You’re totally right, there’s not one party that is 100% legitimately going to do everything they say they are going to do, and all parties have their faults. However, I believe that Prime Minister Stephen Harper was the only one who shut down Parliament for two months, killing a pesky inquiry into Afghan detainees, stalling government bills and allowing the Conservatives to take control of the Senate.
Post # 24
@forforever: I can’t totally decipher from your message what you’re debating exactly, but I will say this: Just because its typical of politicians to renege on campaign promises and just because every political probably has a blight on their record for doing something sneaky, are we not meant to comment when Harper does it? Politicians, ALL POLITICIANS should be held to a much higher standard that they currently are.
I think Harpers shady, but my comment wasn’t about that. I voted NDP (thats right – I actually went to the canadian consulate here and got an absentee vote, when some people in Canada couldn’t be bothered walking down the street), so i don’t support his politics, but what i was saying was literal – i just think he’s a creepy person and his eyes burn my soul. You know how theres just creepy people in the world? He’s one, to me at least. The fact that I don’t agree with basically anything he does is kind of incidental at this point!
Post # 25
I can’t stand Harper. I can’t stand governments and governing based on ideology instead of knowledge, study, and practice. How embarrassing for Canada. Those ex-Reform guys in particular give me the creeps.
Post # 26
Haha! I thought I was the only one crushing on the French man! Nice!
Post # 27
@Bostonsmom: Proroguing Parliament is obviously a really controversial move and I definitely have no beef with anyone who disagreed with it, well the second time anyways. Although I think all parties are guilty of stall tactics which delay passing legislation.
@ScarletBegonia: I wasn’t really debating anything other than deciding whether or not I would respond directly to your initial post. Because of the OPs disclaimer to keep things cool I opted not to. I suppose when OttawaBride shared a similar reaction I couldn’t help myself 🙂 If his personal appearance creeps you out, who am I to hold that against you? Obviously everyone sees people through a different lense. Duceppe as eye candy? Case in point lol. I just felt your original comment lacked substance and my gut reaction was to disagree. Seeing Harper and his family in the flesh paints a very different picture. After expanding on your comment, again those are your opinions and I’m going to leave them at that.
Otherwise, I was only pointing out that the ‘sneakiness’ runs across party lines. Note that I didn’t exclude the Conservatives from this and I would agree with you that Politicians in general should be held to a higher standard.
ETA: @OneEleven, I have to admit that one took me by surprise!
Post # 28
I’m pretty sure that no matter who got elected, there would be a lot of complaining. I’d say my leanings are definitely more liberal, but I hated Iggy and wouldn’t have wanted him for PM. If they had chosen a better leader I think they wouldn’t have lost so many ridings and could have stood a fair chance. I’m not a huge fan of Harper, but I’ll give him (or whoever managed it) credit that we fared far better than so many other countries around the world in the recession.
As far as the NDP goes, I think Jack Layton is a good common sense man, but I don’t fall into where their policies lay. I think they’ll do well as opposition though and force the Conservatives to be a lot more accountable for their actions, so I’m thankful for that. I’m looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.
Post # 29
This election just goes to show we need a proportional representation voting system, as well as voting for our PM and our riding candidate separately. For instance, my MPP is Liberal David McGuinty, and he’s been doing a great job for 7 years. Do I want, if I vote for him, to have Iggy as our PM? Hells no.
I can’t believe the Conservatives got a majority – it’ll be an interesting ride over the next four years. I’m not a fan, personally.
Am overjoyed that Elizabeth May got her seat (finaaalllyy! WOOT!) and NDP being the official opposition.