(Closed) Canadian Bees – Spring Election? Who Will You Vote For?

posted 9 years ago in Legal
  • poll: Who will you vote for?

    Conservatives

    Liberals

    NDP

    Bloc Quebecois

    Other

    Who Cares?

    Undecided

  • Post # 17
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2012

    LIBERALS!

    Actually, the opposition has made is QUITE clear that they don’t intend to form a coalition. And the funny thing is, Harper, in 2004, contemplated a coalition government with the Bloc and NDP There is a signed letter by Harper, Duceppe, and Layton asking the Governor General to consider a coalition government. (Hypocrite, much?)

    @JosephH: “The NDPs and Liberals are dead-set on spending spending spending” –You are joking right? The Conservatives want us to buy F-35s that are going to cost us 30 BILLION dollars. Not to mention the G20/G8 summits that cost us 1 BILLION dollars, for a fake lake. In a time of economic uncertainty! They haven’t even told us what those mega-prisons would cost us. Do we need them? No. Canada’s crime rate is going down.

    Do you know why we have made it through the recession? We survived this Market crash because of limitations Martin put on the banks while he was finance minister. The surplus that the Liberal Party left us clearly helped. Is Harper is going to lead us to financial security with jets and super jails?

    Further, Harper is a career politician who has done nothing outside politics while Ignatieff has been a renowned journalist in Afghanistan, author, lawyer, Harvard director, and Oxford professor. 

    This article is great, and it does a GREAT job outlining what has happened in the Harper regime. At a time when Arabs risk life and limb for political freedoms, Canadians seem largely apathetic about the erosion of their democracy.

    It’s crazy how little attention all of these scandals are getting while the opposition parties are screaming and no one seems to be listening.

    Thoughts on the last article?

     

    Post # 18
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2011

    Our riding is actually Dalton McGuinty’s (for you bees in Ontario who know who that is) brother.

    (And when provincial elections roll around it’s Dalton’s riding. Gag me.)

    Soooo…..to say he’s had a stranglehold on this riding for the last decade is putting it mildly. Anybody I vote for feels wasted to me, but if it was actually ‘fair’ I’d say NDP. Or Liberal…..eeeeeeeeh. Maybe.

    And I will say this, and then shut my trap, but: it seems as though some people in this thread are listening to those attack ads Harper is so fond of running. Congratulations for proving me wrong! I didn’t actually think those worked.

    Post # 19
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: February 2012

    Grew up in Edmonton, the most conservative part of the country, and I’ve been living in Toronto, the lone hold out for Liberal voters in Ontario. I find it so difficult to take the journalism in either setting seriously. I wish I could vote for something that I truly cared about and affected me. I don’t believe any candidate represents me. I put undecided.

    Post # 20
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    576 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2011

    NDP!!

    Out of curiosity, to all the people voting conservative, how do you justify voting in a party that was held in contempt for charges such as altering a signed document to deny an organization funding? I’m sorry, I tolerant NO shadiness in Canadian politics. Not as long as I can vote.

    Post # 21
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    126 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2012

    It’s funny, everyone cared so much about the sponsorship scandal, but the Conservatives can do pretty much anything and avoid the same fate. We should give the Conservatives the same verdict we gave the liberals in light of that scandal.

    Laundry list of shadiness:

    1. Conservatives held in contempt of Parliament

    a. Bev Oda lied in Parliament, a cardinal sin of Westminster style democracy

    b. Conservatives held in contempt for withholding and misleading the House

    2. Integrity Commissioner failed to uphold even ONE of more than 200 whistle-blowing complaints. 

    a. kicked out of office due to public outcry, she was given $500,000 of taxpayers’ money on the condition that she doesn’t talk about it.

    3. A foreign service officer blew a whistle on the Cdn military handing over detainees to Afghan security forces, which was likely violation of international humanitarian law, and the government tried to  destroy him and refused to give documents to a parliamentary inquirty

    a. The Speaker reminded them that government Parliament controlled cabinet, not the other way around

    4. When opposition parties were close to agreeing on a coalition government, rather than face a vote of confidence, Harper talked the governor general into shutting down parliament for a month so he could shore up his own support. 

    5. Harper chose a governor general, who had previously drawn up terms of an inquirty commission that excluded the potentially most damaging parts of a scandal involving a former conservative prime minister

    6. Four conservatives have been charged with exceeding campaign spending limits in the 2006 election that put Harper in power. A minister used public office and material to pursue party political goals of courting ethnic vote banks for the conservatives

    7. Harper promised greater transparency and accountability BUT has silenced civil servants and diplomats, PUBLISHED guidelines on how to disrupt hostile parliamentary committees and supressed reseaerch that contradicts ideologically driven policy (like the data that show crime rates are falling)

    8. Civil society groups that criticze any government policy risk loss of funding and hostile takeovers.

    Source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/canada-watches-its-democracy-erode/story-e6frg6ux-1226030310248

    Post # 21
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    126 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2012
    Post # 22
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    576 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2011

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    @hypercrazy38: thanks. I think people need to take a good hard look at whats been  happening, before they say I’ll vote for ____ no matter what.

     

    Post # 23
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    126 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2012

    I agree, the thing is, I wish the NDP-ers would also realize that the left vote is being split between them and the Liberals. If NDP voters threw their support behind the Liberals, the Liberals could win, which means no more sketchy Conservative government who is the laughingstock of the world. 

    Post # 24
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    592 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2012

    Liberal! Because I’m just THAT tired of looking at Stephen Harper’s rug!

    Does he not realize it’s time to bow out of his leadership position? How many votes of non-confidence will it take? Is he really that thick?

     

    Post # 25
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2011

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    @hypercrazy38: For this very reason I think I will be voting liberals for the first time. I always vote NDP but I am ashamed to say it is a wasted vote 🙁

    Post # 26
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2011

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    @hypercrazy38: where I live NO ONE votes liberal, so i’m voting NDP. All the signs in my riding are either orange or blue. Plus I’m rather left wing. 

    Post # 27
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: August 2011

    I’m not for Liberals, but I know exactly who I DON’T want to see in power (Conservatives)

    Post # 28
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    126 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2012

    @tranquility: Yay! I’m not going to lie, I’m excited about Ignatieff. Conservative attack ads, spanning from two years ago, will not work on me!

    “It’s not that Ignatieff is much more available to the media and the public than Dion was. It’s that the way Ignatieff handles himself in an exposed situation—talking without text, taking lots of questions, including hostile ones—commands attention in a way Dion, or Paul Martin before him, just couldn’t muster.”

    http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/04/01/the-campaign-trail-contrast-will-harper-adjust/

     

    Post # 29
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: August 2011

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    @hypercrazy38: Do you mind sharing some more sites where someone like me who doesn’t really know much about politics can get a grasp of the situation?

    Post # 30
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: July 2012

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    @hypercrazy38: Lol, the fact that they are still running the exact same attack ads is actually outrageously funny. It’s been two years and they can’t find anything else on him? Haha, give me a break.

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