(Closed) Career advice and DH…in a pickle!

posted 6 years ago in Career
Post # 3
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Blushing bee

I can’t give any direct advice as I’m not in the business field. However, all of my roommates were BBA’s and they have careers that are flying AND with some of the highest salaries I’ve seen straight out of school. So yes, I can assure you that good positions exist, it’s just this sucky economy that’s making them hard to find. You’ll find it if you look hard enough, especially with 3 years of admin work!

Post # 5
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

@gardenroses:  The good news is that almost all companies have operations.  Since you have education around there tell him to look into the facilities departments of colleges and office parks. That is a good starting place that he should be able to get into.

Also, does he know what his goal job title would be?  If he doesnt, tell him to research it. Once he does reach out to company’s that probably have that title and ask for Informational Interviews with either the HR or someone with that title. Then he can ask them how they got there. They can give him better guidance.

 

Post # 7
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

@gardenroses:  OK so those positions are very different and while Project manager can but may not be considered Operations, Account Manager isnt really. At least not traditionally. 

To get to those positions hell probably need to work in the respective departments first so if 

If he wants those positions I woud not rec the HR job, unless money is the only goal. As for the 81 lumber, that is manager, but that is store manager which is a different path, again, from the corporate path you described him wanting with Account Manager etc. 

The most direct path is for him to get into the right corporate company in the right department as an assistant account manager or even a sales position working with an account manager position. Thats how the people I know in that position got theirs.

Also if COO is his end goal hell need financial experience/background as well. Getting a job in finance (not accounting) would also be a good start for him.

 

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I have a BA and an MBA and yes, I do think he can transfer from an admin position to something more specialized, although this depends on the company and what specialty he’s interested in. For example, it’s somewhat of a natural transition to go from admin to program management but it’s much harder to go from admin to finance or accounting. Did he emphasize in anything in particular with his BBA? I think I know of some people, with a general BBA like his, have managed to get starting positions in finance or human resources/recruiting.

For him to move from admin to a more specialized, yet related, field, he would have to tailor his resume to suit whatever it is he’s applying for and I would definitely network like crazy. It is much easier to get an interview (especially when you are not exactly THE perfect fit) when you know someone who knows the hiring manager. For operations management, he should be familiar with many of the concepts used in operations such as lead time, six sigma, and forecasting. If an MBA is out of the works, I think there are certification programs through schools for operations management.

With an MBA, it’s not a golden ticket into an awesome job and in this economy, it’s been challenging for MBAs (unless it’s from a top-tier school) to change industries. By this, I mean someone who has always worked in accounting, for example, wanting to switch to business development/strategy. It’s also important to choose a school that has an excellent alum network as that makes a huge difference. I wouldn’t necessarily just pick any old MBA program. In addition, I personally think a full-time program is better than a fully-employed program as the students in the full-time program have more time to meet with potential employers, do more informational interviews and check out a wider variety of internships, many of which can lead to awesome jobs post-graduation.

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

In my experience (petroleum & related products) ops managment is tough to get into without an engineering background. I’m a BBA Finance/Econ and most of the people I know with similar degrees are on the sales side of the business or are financial analysts.

I don’t think he needs an MBA by any means. I look around at my company and about half the managers don’t have MBAs until you get to the Director level and then it’s the norm. I would say though that if he is lucky enough to be in a position to afford an MBA right now, he should take advantage of it. Being in a low stress job is a great time to go to school part time, if it’s something he really wants.

I don’t know what industry he is in, but joining networking organizations can be a big help. Also, making sure his boss knows that he has higher hopes. When he sits down to do his goals for the year, he should tell his manager what he wants to do and make specific goals that help acheive that. Then in a year it’s really easy to say “I accomplished a, b, and c, and I think I deserve to have my name in the hat for that new position” or whatever.

Good luck! It’s a tough market right now but I’m sure he will tough it out and do great!

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

@gardenroses:  He should research recruiters in the area that specialize in his area.

As for Linkedin he can use it for job seaarhing the traditional way. And he needs to connect to coworkers, friends, school and school mates. From there he can see who he is connected to different corporations/jobs and see if anyone can help make an introduction. 

The best way to network takes awhile. Instead of looking at “how can so and so help me” he needs to think about “how he can help so and so” He needs to help other people if he wants to be helped. There is a difference between asking for a job and true networking.

Post # 16
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

Poor guy, sounds like he is doing WAY more work than he is being paid for! I don’t know anything about your town or the industry, so I’m sure I’m zero help with the new job part. But, I would still talk to his employer. He should outline his responsibilities for the guy and point blank ask for more money and a better title. Not that there is anything wrong with being an admin, but he needs something that more adequately describes what he is doing like “office manager” and looks better on a resume. I’m not saying he needs to threaten to quit, but at least voicing that he feels he’s not being compensated appropriately. (Maybe you’ve mentioned already he did that – can’t remember and it’s early!)

Has he thought about using a headhunter? I know they take a chunk of your salary as their fee (Via the hiring company) but it could still be worth it. Are yall willing to move?

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