(Closed) Catherine is not officially “Princess Catherine”

posted 7 years ago in Names
Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Huh, yeah I didn’t know that either.  Kind of sad for this day and age, but tradition is tradition.  Plus, everyone will still know her as Princess Kate/Catherine. 

In college, didn’t Prince Will go by “William Wales”  (as in Prince of Wales?)  Wales isn’t ‘technicall’ their last name, is it??

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2012

She will be known as the Dutchess of Cainbridge until she becomes Queen. Diana was known as the Princess of Wales, because Charles is the Prince of Wales, but she was never officially Princess Diana, only born princesses hold that title, Princess Anne, Princess Margaret, Princess Beatrice, Princess Eugenie etc. Prince Edward and his wife chose not to give there daughter the princess title, so she is known as Lady Louise.

…its all very complicated… lol.

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Then how come Elizabeth’s husband is known as Prince Philip? Is that not really his title?

And I believe she will actually be Queen Consort when William becomes King.

Post # 8
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

@ItsPronounced ABear – it’s traditional for young unmarried royals to use the place they hold a title over as an informal last name rather than using Windsor or Mountbatten-Windsor – Beatrice and Eugenie go by Beatrice York and Eugenie York, for example.

Post # 9
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

So confusing. No surname? I thought it was Windsor… how will she fill out forms for the rest of her life?! 🙂

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Wikipedia has Kate’s full name as Catherine Elizabeth… that’s it. I guess when you’re a princess or married to the future King of England, they will make exceptions! But I do know that William was registered as William Wales in the army.

Post # 11
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@MissKatelyn: Because the Queen issued letters patent that allowed Phillip to be styled a Royal Prince in his own right. Meaning he could be called Prince Phillip officially, before that he was known as His Royal Highness The Duke of Edinburgh.

(It should be noted though that Phillip was born a prince–of Greece and Denmark. He gave up that title though when he was about to marry Elizabeth.)

People have speculated that something similar could happen with Kate. But most likely it wouldn’t happen until Will is second in line. 

Post # 12
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Newbee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I think Katie Couric needed to be directed to this thread in the breaks between CBS’s coverage — she kept referring to Catherine as “Princess Catherine” and for some reason it was really stressing me out! I’ll chalk it up to the sleepy ha-ha’s; I’d gotten up at 4AM to watch the wedding and eventually began to feel a bit loopy!

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

She’ll become Princess Catherine when Prince Charles becomes King. Then both her and Wiliiam will go to Prince and Princess (from Duke and Duchess).

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@JrzyGurl: Depends though. That doesn’t mean Kate becomes Princess Catherine. Just that she becomes Catherine, Princess of Wales. As I posted above, Prince Phillip didn’t not become “Prince Phillip” until 1957 when the Queen announced that he could be called that (and there was a lot of debate as to what he could be called at that time). He went by the title the Duke of Edinburgh before then. 

When Prince William is first in line to the throne he will be in invested as the Prince of Wales and probably be styled much like his father: HRH The Prince William…, Prince of Wales. Whereas when that happens Catherine will more likely be styled like Diana: HRH Catherine…, The Princess of Wales. That’s without The Princess Catherine which would let her be Princess Catherine. (Jury’s out if she will want that though…Camilla is techincally Princess of Wales at the moment, but she is not known by that title to avoid confusion with Diana. She goes by Duchess of Cornwall.)

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