(Closed) Changing guns law won't change a thing neither faith or anything else

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Busy bee
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@JaneyDcat:  I agree! Especially on the psychological evaluations as well.

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@KellyLouise:  Actually a molotov cocktail is fairly easy & inexpensive to make in terms of bomb making. Bottle, Wick, Rag, Gas, and lighter is really all you need. 

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Here in MN, if you want to have a conceal & carry permit, you have to pass a firearms safety class.

 

instructors will NOT pass someone if they think the student could be a danger to himself or others.

 

 

sounds to me like EVERYONE wanting to purchase guns should have to take a class and be evaluated before purchase.

 

*i would like to also point out that the recent mass shootings this past year were all performed by people who legally purchased their own firearms and ammunition.  So the argument that tougher gun sale laws won’t prevent future tragedies is kind of a moot point.

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“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

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@PinkMermaid:  relatively easy to make, yes, although still probably less easy then buying a gun in the US. Deadly enough to kill 20 kids? No. Molotovs are for maiming more then killing. Guns are for killing. Death. Dying. Horrible things that sould be removed from society.

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@Double_rainbow:  +1. As another Canadian, it baffles my mind that they need these guns. 

I went to Tennessee once and couch surfed at a couples home. The next day, the girls mom came over and told us how she got startled in the middle of the night and got up and grabbed her pistol. My friend and I looked at one another, jaws dropped like WTF YOU PEOPLE REALLY DO HAVE GUNS IN YOUR BEDSIDE DRAWER. We still laugh about it but Jeez.

Canadians use knives, not guns. I’d sure as heck rather outrun a knife psycho than a gun psycho lol. 

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Criminals do not follow laws.

Laws to limit criminals will not work.

Someone who wants to shoot up a facility will not go, “Oh dear, it seems that I can’t obtain a gun legally. I guess I won’t shoot up that facility!”

They will obtain a gun if they want a gun. It isn’t hard. Just look at gang shootings anywhere in the world. Do you think those guns were obtained through legal means?

 

Edit: In the United States, it is our constitutional right to own firearms.

Removing this from the constitution would do more damage to our country than good. Riots. Mass outrage. More shootings than you can imagine now.

Yes, other countries have lower shootings, but it is in our very foundation as a country that US Citizens have the right to own weapons.

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@MissTatas:  This.

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@Hyperventilate:  does the US have regulated militia? No? Thought so. The right to bear arms only applies to a regulated militia. why do people always so conveniently forget the FIRST part of the DAMN AMENDMENT?!

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This is a really complex problem, and gun control is only a tiny sliver of it.

Do not get so hung up on gun control, faith, access to mental health care, the media, or any one bit because one change is not enough to fix this. We as a society need to build a culture where we actually respect one another, where differences are settled without violence, where ill people can afford to seek help and not fear any repercussions, and where we don’t respond like Pavlovian dogs to the sensationalism fed to us by the media.

Yes, gun control laws need to be overhauled. But a whole book of new laws will not change a thing if we do not respect each other, and do not expect our fellow citizens to do the same. No amount of gun control, psych testing, video game banning or Jesus will change a thing until we do not allow hate in our society.

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@fishbone:  Yes.  How do we get there?

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@Hyperventilate:  It is our constitutional right to own firearms, but it is strictly speaking not our constitutional right to own whatever kind we want and under whatever conditions we want. Furthermore, the ready availability of guns to the law-abiding public makes them easily accessible to the black market. Many of the guns used in gang violence in countries without guns ultimately come from the USA.

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@strawbs:  I’m not sure if you know this or not, but the second amendment was changed in 2010. In case you’re not one to read Wikipedia entries:

“In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two Second Amendment decisions. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2]

Emphasis mine.

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@Double_rainbow:  We are allowed to have semi-automatic guns, but we can’t have automatic ones.

My Father-In-Law owns a gun, and we will probably own one one day. For what reason? Just in case. Hopefully, it would never be used.

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