(Closed) Charters of the Hive: Part XV

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Post # 287
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

My chart looks ridiculous, but I’m checking with the other thermometer, too, and it’s showing flatline temps also.  It’s not the thermometer, it’s me.  I’ve never seen a flatline chart for the entire luteal phase.  Seriously strange.

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Post # 288
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

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@pinkshoes:  Personally, I’d go on the trip. If your work is asking you to travel, they obviously think very highly of you to be out of town, doing whatever it is you do. With your cycles, you could O… but like
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@glittermoon:  said, you might not. It is really easy to start putting life on hold while TTC because of all the what if’s. I think that everything happens for a reason, and that turning down the opportunity in the off chance that you might O, would be silly. Go for it! It’s a new adventure, and when you get your BFP, you won’t have to go on any of these trips lol. πŸ™‚ If you have the option of just going for a few days instead of the week and that makes you more comfortable, I think that’s a great option!

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@glittermoon:  I hope you are feeling better hun! πŸ™ Being sick sucks the big one.

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@MrsEagleEye:  While I’m not sure about the hormones with CM post O, and their meaning, I also get watery CM after O. Usually for a few days and then dries right up the day before AF ish. Maybe someone else can explain the correlation btwn the hormones around post O and the CM that follows? Definitely ask your gyno if you are concerned but I honestly don’t think it’s an issue, or that there is anything wrong. I have seen a few posts on here about bee’s who get EWCM during the TWW and have succsesfully gotten pregnant. πŸ™‚ what are your thoughts on waiting until the 6 month mark, and then going for your appt? They may be more inclined to help you (run blood work etc) at that point instead of at the 4-5 cycles mark if you are concerned and if a few labs could ease your mind.

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I am CD13 today… a whole lot of nothing going on! Still spotting a little from my sono the other day but that’s it. Next RE appt Sat at CD15… boring week!

Post # 289
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@hardtoconcentrate:  Ok, thanks so much for your help!  I guess you are right, I don’t know at this point if I would also get watery CM with a BFP cycle so I suppose I’ll just ignore it for now.  I was originally planning to schedule my gyno check up after we had done 5 months too so I guess I will stick with that plan and try to get in the end of next month.  I am also hoping 5 months will be close enough to 6 that maybe they will take me seriously.  I have no idea what my doc thinks of charting though so that could be interesting. πŸ˜›  I can’t believe your flat temps this cycle!  I was surprised to see my temp today matched yesterday’s, nothing like yours!  I hope it’s a good sign for you!  I completely understand doubting your thermometer.  I usually temp at night to see if my temp looks like it is dropping or not in my luteal phase so I know what my usual bedtime temps should be.  (I’m too impatient to wait til morning :P)  So far they have been right in line with what I thought, until last night when my nighttime temp (which is usually higher than my morning temp the same day) plummeted a whole degree!  I took it again right after since it was odd, and also got a very low temp, but it differed by .6 from what I had just gotten.  I made DH try it, and he was only getting temps in the 97 range too and he usually runs about 99.  I tried changing the battery but we both couldnt get a temp higher than 97.something.  This morning though, I took it and it was right in line with what I expected to see?  Very strange.  At least my vaginal thermometer seems to be fine.

Post # 290
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@StaceyA:  I hadn’t thought about waiting til 6 months for my regular checkup, that’s a good idea too.  Thanks for suggesting it!  I’ve heard that a lot of insurances won’t help pay for fertility testing until the 1 yr mark, do you know if that’s true?  We may have DH’s sperm counts tested just for peace of mind but I wasn’t sure if there was a minimum time you had to wait to do it.  If insurance won’t pay for it after 6 months either, I’d rather just pay the money now to have it analyzed so we could find a problem sooner if there was one.  If they will pay for it in 2 months though, I will save some money and just wait it out.

Post # 291
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Bumble bee

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@hardtoconcentrate:  It’s madness your temps are still flat!!  When are you planning on testing?

Post # 292
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

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@MrsEagleEye: Are you in Canada or the US? In Canada, we don’t have the insurance thing as almost everything is covered (thank the lords for that!) but if you rely on insurance, I’d just start looking into your policy and see what is covered. While I don’t know this for a fact, if you have a referral from your GP to a specialist or what have you, regardless of the time you’ve spend TTC, you are likely covered/partially covered. All depends though. If you have your policy handy it would be worth flipping through it and finding out what’s fully covered, what’s not and what they will partially pick the tab up on. At least that way, when you see your doctor you can know what is giong to work for you and DH if they recommend other steps etc and can make a quick decision about where to go from there.

On a side note to that, just wanted to warn you that IF you decide you want to go to a specialist/fertility clinic (this is where I go)/an RE etc… it is stressful. It’s very involved, time consuming and a little scary. It’s hard to move your mindset from “this is fun! We’re TTC!” to the serious side of having a wand up your hoo-ha everyday/every other day, combined with blood work, every test under the sun to make sure you are okay (which is good, but intimidating) and being looked at constantly. I’m not saying it’s bad, but it’s most certainly a big committment, big decision.

My doctor warned me that starting at a clinic is very stressful .. and while I wouldn’t say it’s REALLY stressful, it can be overwhelming. You find out a LOT of information about yourself, your DH and go through the gammot of tests really quickly. I think I’m still on information overload…. sometimes ignorance is bliss, you know? I have been googling the shit out of septate uterus for 3 days now since my sono, and am no further ahead than before on knowing what to do. I finally found one really good article last night about how a septate under 1cm has virtually the same fertility/infertility/MC rates as a normal/acurate uterus. So, just be prepared. I absolutely, 100% love my clinic. I am so excited that they are working with me and focused 100% on getting us that BFP… but… it’s a LOT. So, make sure you and your DH are on the same page, ready to jump in with all 4 feet and ready to have most of the “fun” aspects of TTC behind you as you enter the medical journey side of TTC. My DH and I are so ready to welcome another member to our family, and felt like the decision to go to a specialist was the best option for us in hopefully reaching that goal a little faster than we would have naturally.

On the plus side, if we had waiting the full year before getting the referral (we only started TTC in August 2012) we would have been a year + TTC, and only then going to a specilist for the testing.. likely wouldn’t have even had a chance at our BFP until this time NEXT year. Scary. So, if you and your DH are already “there”… see if they will push through a referral. While I don’t usually condone lying… you could always say you’ve been TTC for a year (or 9months or something) which may get your doctor to push through a referral now. Smile (if that’s what you want)

Sorry, that turned into a novel. LOL!

Post # 293
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

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@StaceyA:  Haha, no problem thanks for the advice and for the warning about increased stress.  I will definitely look at my insurance policy (I’m in the US) to see what they cover and what they don’t.  I hadn’t thought about fertility testing becoming much more stressful and a more clinical aproach to having a baby than carefree, but I would say we are already to that point of wanting to make things happen.  To be honest, we only had the “fun TTC” stage the first month I think, but I started right away with charting so we never did the let’s just see what happens.  If there is something I can do to speed things up, I always do it.  I have wanted kids since I can remember and waiting a long time only to find out something is wrong just isn’t my nature.  DH is also a few years older than I am so he is also very ready to make things happen.  He offered last night to get his sperm tested to see if there were any issues.  So I know he would be on board and supportive throughout the process. I completely understand the ignorance is bliss idea though.  I was much happier not knowing about everything that has to line up just right to make a baby, not to mention all of the potential things that can go wrong to mess that up.  Charting has introduced me to new things to worry about like luteal phase defects, not enough CM, low progesterone etc and perhaps I would have been happier not knowing those originally.  However, if something is wrong I’d much rather find it sooner than have a few months TTC with no stress only to eventually find out we need help.   I figure at the very least, we gain peace of mind if everything checks out.  At the most, we could identify an issue much faster and hopefully that will get us to our BFP (or other avenues) that much faster as well.  Win-Win  Well, except for the poking/proding, but if it gets me a baby even one cycle sooner I’d consider it all well worth it!  We are also house hunting and knowing if we did have any road blocks for TTC could help us to determine how much money we are comfortable using for a down payment and if we should save some of our money for possible fertility medicines, IVF, etc.

Post # 294
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

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@MrsEagleEye:  you sound exactly like myself/DH… we were/are just SO ready that I was 100% willing to just do whatever it took to help us move through this process faster (especially because of my rediculously long cycles). I’d say go for it! I think you have the mindset that is best for moving into the next step(s), your DH too… so, what’s the harm? It really is a win-win. Sometimes the news isn’t always perfect, but the GOOD news is that there are solutions out there. πŸ™‚ Keep us posted! If you ever have any questions don’t hesitate to PM me.

Post # 295
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

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@doxielove:  Isn’t it crazy?  I don’t even know what to say about it.  I’m going to test at 11dpo, which is Monday.  Luckily I’m leaving town tomorrow and won’t be back until Sunday night, so I won’t be thinking about it and I won’t have any tests with me this weekend.

 

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@MrsEagleEye:  Thermometers drive me crazy.  That’s so weird that yours was a full degree difference last night and DH’s was weird, too.  I have to keep reminding myself that it’s about a pattern and not a single temp….although my pattern is completely wacky right now.  I’m in the same boat as you about the doctor – I really wonder how they’ll respond about charting and being in my 6th cycle, since some people on here have said their doctors don’t care about charting or don’t believe in it…which is CRAZY to me.  I went to my endocrinologist on Monday for a checkup and told her we had been TTC since the wedding.  She asked me if I knew what I was doing and how to figure out when I ovulate.  I told her I’m charting, and she scoffed and told me it was completely unnecessary and all I needed to do was pee on some OPKs and taking my temp every day was overkill.  I kept my mouth shut but REALLY wanted to correct her and tell her that you can get a positive opk and not actually O, and that temping is the only way to confirm O.  So, we sometimes know more than even our docs about this stuff. 

 

Post # 296
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Bumble bee

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@hardtoconcentrate:  GL on Monday.  Hopefully being out of town will make the weekend go by quickly!  Have you searched for charts like yours on FF?  I would be curious to see if anyone else has ever had a LP like yours!

Post # 297
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

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@doxielove:  Thank you. πŸ™‚  I’ve tried to search for flat temps like mine, but I haven’t found any that were like this almost the entire LP, just a few days here and there, or pre-o.  I’m still trying, though.  It’s got me so confused!  And even more obsessed with my temp than usual….:/

Post # 298
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Bumble bee

Cross posted from Feb POAS:

what the hell.  This is a bit Too Much Information.  Just went to the bathroom and am spotting (brown, with super, super watery CM).  Great, this is what I get for wearing newish panties with no pantyliner.  On another note, anyone know of any good stain removing techniques!?  Lame.  PS.  I hate using the word panties.  Gives me the heebie jeebies.  lol.

Post # 299
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Bumble bee

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@hardtoconcentrate:  Well you should add your chart to the gallery haha.  It’s like a science experiement or something πŸ˜›

Post # 300
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

@MrsEagleEye: To answer your question, yes, most insurances won’t start infertility work up until you have been TTC for 1yr+ unless age or any other factors come in to play like PCOS. I went to my doctor and did a preconception appointment the month after the wedding when we decided to start getting serious about TTC. She told me due to my PCOS she’d start me off on Clomid at what would’ve been 4 months of actual trying. Well, I figured that was too short of a time and decided to wait for at least 6+ months.

I hate to disagree with the lovely StaceyA, but I wouldn’t lie to them. If you are honest and upfront, maybe your GYN will run some tests that they won’t classify as infertility so it will still be covered just to rule out any hormonal factors. I would say at 6 months TTC I would go ahead and get DH tested. Now of course these are just my opinions.

In reality, it takes the “normal” couple on average of 6 months plus anymore to conceive. It’s sad, but true. I’d hate to see you have to spend the extra money and go through all the stress for infertility if everything is okay?

And good luck with the house hunting!! How exciting!!

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@hardtoconcentrate:  Good luck on Monday – I’ll be chart stalking all weekend!! FX!!!

To everyone else, HI!!!! I’m trying to take another break from WB so I’m sorry if I didn’t respond to everyone individually, I’m just trying to skim through real quick! FX for everyone, you are all in my prayers!!

Post # 301
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Buzzing bee
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@Yellow.Clover:  Are you seriously disagreeing with me?! What the heck miss!!? LOL.. I’m totally kidding. As I mentioned in my post, I don’t condone lying to them but… sometimes people are just really desperate to get that appointment in and that was the only thing I could see working on having a referral sped up. LOL. I didn’t lie to mine, and we had only been trying for 2 cycles and only about 4 months… so… I would also not suggest lying to them, but hey… what you do on your own time…. LMAO. πŸ˜‰

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