(Closed) 'Christmas without christ' signs at work.

posted 6 years ago in Secular
  • poll: Is this inappropriate for the workplace?
    Yes, definitely. : (280 votes)
    77 %
    Perhaps a little. : (44 votes)
    12 %
    Not really. : (19 votes)
    5 %
    No. It's completely fine. : (23 votes)
    6 %
  • Post # 62
    Member
    10650 posts
    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: January 2011

    @padme:  I don’t think it’s offensive at all, but that doesn’t take away someone else’s right to be offended by it.

    Post # 63
    Hostess
    8575 posts
    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: October 2014

    Religion doesn’t belong in the work place. That’s always been my opinion.

    I don’t really consider christmas to be about religion anymore.. I’m agnostic borderline athiest and I celebrate christmas.. not the CHRIST part of christmas.. but the being together with family and exchanging gifts.

    Post # 64
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    594 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2009

    @nellybee:  Xmas is still technically Christian; it comes from the Greek letters Chi Rho, which mean Christ. 

    Post # 65
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    95 posts
    Worker bee
    • Wedding: January 2014

    That’s so absurd.  Especially since Christmas is a pagan holiday anyway.  It was never about Christ.  The whole practice is pagan with a Christian spin.  Maybe write, “research Christmas is pagan”.  Maybe they won’t put up the signs again.  Christianity isn’t about Christmas.  Seriously.

    Post # 66
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA

    @Mrs. Myrtle Beach: We celebrate Christmas because it’s a social holiday instead of a religious holiday, for the vast majority of the public.  So those of us who aren’t religious, but still enjoy vacations / family / holiday cheer / presents can also enjoy Christmas.  It’s like how everyone celebrates Halloween, not just Celltics and pagans (the origin of the holiday). 

    Plus, as many people have mentioned, the history of the holiday is that it was a winter celebration day for hundreds (thousands?) of years before it got adopted by the Catholic church as “the birth of Christ”.

    Post # 67
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    569 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2013

    @mrspinesol:  Go back and read my original post. I did not say non-Christians had no right to be offended when they are wished a Merry Christmas. I simply said that Christians have more of a right to be offended by the hijacking of one of their sacred days for commercial exploitation than non-Christians who get annoyed by those well wishes when they go out and do things like “Christmas shopping.” Perhaps I should amend to clarify, even if it was not made abundantly clear in the second paragraph of my original post which non-Christians I was referring to. So I’ll state it here:

    I think Christians have more of a right to be offended by the hijacking of one of their sacred days for commercial exploitation than non-Christians who get annoyed by Christmas wishes but still “celebrate” Christmas in a secular manner.

    All I’m saying is turnabout is fair play. Where I grew up, we wished each other on all the sacred days, regardless of ethnicity or religion and it was nice. Eid, Deepavali, Vesak or Christmas etc. Since coming to America, I’ve learnt that people don’t appreciate this so I don’t typically wish people anything for fear of offending them. Which I think is a bit sad.

     

     

     

     

     

    Post # 68
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    @Schrodingers-Car:  Ok. But how many people actually know that. The only reasons I’ve ever heard for writing Xmas instead of Christmas, is they are too lazy to write the whole thing out or just point blank Don’t believe in God and so they don’t want the Christ in Christmas. 

     

     

     

     

     

    I am in no way saying that I agree with the posters in the work place by the way. 

     

    Its easy to celebrate whatever you want to for whatever reason, but it seems like people are overly sensitive about Christmas, and wanting to take the religious part out of it. 

    I think people would be offended if I said Im going to Celebrate Hanukkah because i like the dreidle game, and i love the idea of getting gifts for 8 days instead of 1 like my jewish friends did when i was young. But Bump the Jews, its not all about religion and i can celebrate it anyway i want to. I don’t have to do all that Jewish stuff, and let me change the name of it by the way, I think ill call it candle week. 

    Post # 69
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2013

    @padme:

    if someone wants to wish me a happy Hanukkah I would just say thanks!  How is wishing someone a happy day (or days) offensive? 

    This has also puzzled me for a long time. Because my Jewish friends wish me a Happy Hannukah and Happy Purim and my Muslim cousins wish me a Happy Eid and the cashier at the local Trader Joe’s wished me a Happy Thanksgiving a week ago and I like it. Am I supposed to miscontrue this as some sort of proselytizing?
     
     
     

    Post # 70
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: January 2011

    @miss_to_mrs:  I think most people would agree that many times it is about Christ.  Just because traditions are shared, borrowed, or stolen doesn’t prevent it from also celebrating Jesus’ birth.

    Post # 72
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    594 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2009

    @nellybee:  I know, that is why I said technically 🙁  It is very confusing,  as this Feast Day was placed at this time to try to thwart the then current Pagan celebrations.  Perhaps we should celebrate as we wish, and each to their own. 

    I also do not agree with the workplace posters. 

    Post # 73
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2014

    @ZebraPrintMe:  That defiitely sounds belittling to me, and at the sight of one of those I would be going straight to my boss to demand action. If I were to put up posters belittling Christians, you can sure as hell be sure they wouldn’t stay up! Why should religious people be able to belittle me if I cannot do so to them?

     

     

     

    Grumble grumble.

    Post # 74
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    1004 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: February 2014

    @padme:  Thank you! I’m glad that you wouldn’t be offended by someone wishing you happy holidays. Maybe it’s just the area I’m from, but people here tend to get VERY offended when you don’t wish them a merry christmas. Years ago I used to work as a cashier at a general non-religious store. This time of year I wished people happy holidays (There are so many holidays I don’t want to exclude any!) and people would flip out yelling and sometimes cursing at me because I didn’t specify “Christmas”. It was a big thing a few years ago with Christian groups banning any store that had signs that indicated “happy holidays” even if they also had Merry Christmas signs. They demanded all signage must say “Merry Christmas” and only Christmas or they wouldn’t shop there. It had such a huge backing that most stores did change over to only “Merry Christmas” and instructed all staff to only wish people a Merry Christmas. I thought it was somewhat odd one year when I was buying hanukkah themed wrapping paper and they still wished me Merry Christmas. I was like Okay, and happy Hanukkah to you. (I’m technically not Christian or Jewish, I was buying gifts for friends, just thought it was odd)

    I am actually greatly relived to hear so many people that think this isn’t acceptable! Where I am from this is pretty much the norm. You would expect to see signs like this at work, in stores, on bumper stickers, on advertisements, basically it’s everywhere you go. Every year I hear nothing but “If you don’t celebrate Christmas you are an evil horrible person and will burn in hell!” all season.
    The thing is I was never really religious. My family didn’t go to church or anything, but we did celebrate holidays. I guess because it was just the tradition we were all born into. I absolutely love holidays. Any holiday I don’t even care. I don’t mind celebrating Christmas, Hanukkah, Winter Solstice, it could be Chinese New Year. I just love being with loved ones, food, family, the whole idea of holiday cheer and being a little kinder to each other. I also think it’s interesting learning about different cultures and holidays and where they come from. So yea, I’m one of those horrible people that loves the idea of Christmas, but doesn’t really believe in the whole Christ part. I love the traditions that I personally grew up with, that I celebrated all my life. Even though some people feel like I shouldn’t be allowed to have the family traditions that I’ve grown up with because they aren’t the same as their own. I am not trying to take away anything from anyone else’s holiday and I would never encourage people to take Christ out of Christmas. I don’t go around saying no Christ in Christmas or anything to that effect, but personally I don’t go to church or anything.
    I feel like religion is just such a personal thing and no two people take it the same way. I am so happy on here to see so many people willing to accept other people’s beliefs. It really makes to feel happy to know there are people who are respectful no matter what your religion or what holidays you celebrate. 🙂

    Post # 75
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    Helper bee

    @AB Bride:  

    well sure. People have a right to be offended by pistachio nuts if they want to be but they’d be pretty ridiculous if they were. 

    Post # 76
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2013 - UK

    @Summer_Rose:  THIS. It drives me insane that Christmas is being commercialised and twisted. So offensive. Darling Husband calls it “the winter festival of greed”. They better not do the same thing to Easter.

    This is coming from someone who, like you, is happy to celebrate any and all religious festivals in the spirit of neighbourliness and good cheer (especially if they come with good food). I’m happy to attend your Divali festival, or to eat dates with you as you break your Ramadan fast. But I don’t call your Eid “monthly festival”, so you shouldn’t call my Christmas by another name either, just to make some stupid political point.

    I’m not so sure that a lot of the American bees on this board quite understand this POV… perhaps because minority religions are not as visible in America?

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