Colleague identified my moissanite ring as non-diamond and told others!

posted 3 years ago in Rings
Post # 136
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

 

bluepanda :  Of course diamonds are worth more monetarily than the simulants created to imitate them ie cz and moissanite.  That’s not in question.

If you think resale is poor for a genuine diamond,  just imagine resale for a fake diamond (ie diamond simulant)

We all get it Debeers marketing/monopoly blah blah blah. Of course noone who buys a diamond simulant is prey to marketing. Not at all.They just want a “space rock” from stars lololo yeah. So much so that they’re willing to pay more than  cz prices and hope it will be mistaken for the genuine large diamond that they claim they didn’t want.  😉

Op enjoy your ring.  Your colleague was rude but that’s how it goes sometimes. Good for you for being honest in the first place. 

Post # 137
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Helper bee

mrstodd2bee :  I’m not going to entertain the rest of your comment bc I know how you are and it just isn’t worth it. However, I will say that a few reasons why moissanite is more expensive than cz is bc it takes a lot longer/harder for it to grow and they are all hand cut. They are also more difficult to cut. Most cz’s are cut by machines and the ones that are hand cut are more expensive. Also moissanite is harder/more durable than cz. Above all else, that is why I would rather put my money into the Moissanite than cz for long term wear. If cz didn’t cloud over time, was harder, and wasn’t so stark white, it would definitely be in the running for me as an engagement ring. I’m not trying to knock cz down though as I own some of that as well.

Post # 138
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

jewels84 :  Great!  You believe a moissanite diamond sim is worth paying more for than a cz diamond sim. It should be easy then to understand that the original gold standard ie Diamonds: natural/valuable/ millions of years old/hardest substance/ea unique & different are seen as worth paying more for than any created man made imitation/copy/simulant/fake stone. Simulants that could also get a stain/cloud/or get called out….

Post # 139
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Busy bee

mrstodd2bee :  Hmm you do know there are some really ugly diamonds out there… atleast the stain is removeable on moissanite while inclusions are there forever. Please stop talking about mark up on moissanite when diamonds are marked up to a much more ridiculous amount.

The reason it is worth spending more on a Moissanite vs Cz is it will last forever. Yes you could prlly buy tons Czs over the course of time over buying a Moissanite but.. who wants to do that? You could buy tons of moissanite in place of a diamond etc. etc. 

Diamonds are beautiful, they are old, have history and do have more value over a sim, but in the end IT IS A ROCK. Same as a moissanite, or a sapphire, and the piece of gravel you find on your sidewalk. They just happen to have different chemical make ups.

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Post # 140
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

luey12986 :  if the goal is sheer volume over quality then you are correct.  Many sims can be owned especially on ebay, for the price of one quality diamond.

Op, are your colleague’s still rudely referring to your  ring as fake?

 

Post # 142
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2018

When I reflect on some of the best relationships I know, I don’t even think to ask what kind of ring do they have…..or do they even have a ring? 

Some people on here have really disappointing opinions. I think bee was upset because someone called it a ‘fake’ ring???  Is she ‘pretend’ engaged??!  There’s no such thing as a fake ring. 

Ladies be there for each other and support each other’s choices and individuality. Celebrate each other when you:they are happy and teach your daughters to be the same. Sorry to sound like a big hippy but we really need to stop pissing on each other’s chips! 

Congrats Bee. Your ‘real’ engagement ring is beautiful and I’m happy for you xx 

Post # 143
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Helper bee

mrstodd2bee :  That is a personal decision. I don’t think diamonds are worth paying up to nearly 3 times their worth by the time they reach a retailer just for them to be only slightly harder than say a Moissanite or even like a sapphire. The difference is so minute imo. That is why I prefer to purchase my diamonds used or second hand bc the huge markup is not an issue. 

I take my Moissanite off as I do with all of my jewelry when I shower and stuff and don’t have hard water, so I have no issues with the stain. For me it’s money better spent. 

Post # 144
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

I do think this was incredibly rude of the co-worker. Sure it’s not a diamond, but that it doesn’t mean that the ring or the stone is fake. Moissanite is becoming more and more popular for a variety of reasons from wanting something more affordable, something that is less flawed, or maybe even something that doesn’t have the same historically ethical rammifcations as other stones, such as a diamond, for instance. Some people just want something classic. Who cares.

I know that a lot of people think,”Well, it wasn’t a diamond, so he’s technically right,” and sure, that’s right too. However, I think the intent of trying to spot a fake or calling a ring fake is ridiculous and can be incredibly hurtful. I sometimes think that maybe the emphasis on the ring stone/size being a direct statement of how much someone loves the other or social/financial status is rather tiring. I think belittling other’s choices in rings is also tiring, but that’s just me. 

Post # 145
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

jewels84 :  I agree with you, but one sort of misconception there is about stone hardness is that there isn’t much difference between 10 and 9.5 or 9. The numbers are proportionate. For instance, a diamon has an absolute hardness of 1500 and a corundum (ruby, sapphires) are around 400. So sapphires do need some extra love and care, but they are still pretty tough things. 🙂

Post # 146
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

It seems like all the people that are moissy haters should just steer clear of all moissy threads. What point are y’all actually making other than telling people that their choice for a ring is inferior to yours? Moissy is extremely popular on the Bee so if y’all can’t learn to co-exist peacefully, then you should just stay away. 

Post # 147
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335 posts
Helper bee

handlecat :  Thank you for the insight!  Yeah I just meant they are are still extremely tough and not as prone to cracking or scratching than like a pearl or cz. Lord knows I’ve definitely banged my sapphire and moissanite enough with my clumsy self LOL.

Post # 148
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Helper bee

jasc8790 :  It’s like some of them have a superiority complex bc they chose a different stone. I don’t get it. I mean even cz doesn’t get this kind of hate and flack. People have been wearing cz for ages and I’ve never seen it cause so much controversy. The more time I spend on the bee, I feel we are going back to grade school where the snobby mean girls go around belittling the ones who have a target brand purse and not a designer one. Good thing this isn’t real life at least in my world…

Post # 149
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Newbee
  • Wedding: February 2017

 

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Post # 150
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

I love my dainty diamond. I also would have loved a moissy, sapphire, marble, twist tie, whatever. In fact, I had a CZ stand in for awhile until I got my diamond and I loved it because of the meaning behind it.

 

Who the hell cares who has what? It’s up to YOU to love it and the meaning behind it, no one else. Does other people’s opinions on something so personal between you and your Fiance matter that much? Tell them to kick rocks.

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