College Admissions Scam

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Post # 16
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2019 - City, State

Westwood :  I know. I would be devastated that my parents had so little faith in me. Imagine studying hard and getting a near perfect score – then finding out your parents had it doctored. It’s really sad.

Post # 17
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: Canada

I’m Canadian but I’m kind of surprised that there’s outrage over this.  I thought it was well known that this happened in the US.  What about legacy students?  Don’t they get favoured for admission just because who their parents happen to be?

 

Post # 18
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2016

Nothing about this scandal is surprising to me. How do you think George W Bush got into Yale and Harvard? It certainly wasn’t based on his test scores or grades. 

Nepotism gets people into top schools and then gets them a job at their dad’s company after they graduate. (I’m looking at you Ivanka Trump) This has been going on for forever and is one of the reasons the rich stay rich and pass money on generation to generation. 

Post # 19
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2018

to be honest, i always just assumed it was common knowledge that rich kids get into college based off of money, not grades

Post # 20
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2016

I get what most people are saying, but this is different than the normal (still gross) nepotism and rich privilege. 

My main question is: why wasn’t William H. Macy charged? 

 

Post # 21
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2016 - Montego Bay, Jamaica

I don’t feel sorry for all the kids. You really want me to believe Lori Laughlin’s two entitled princesses didn’t know that they were never really part of an actual crew team? They participated in staged photos for their applications. The girls posed on rowing machines! 

 

quote from 18 year old Olivia Laughlin: “I don’t know how much of school I’m gonna attend,” she shared with her nearly 2 million subscribers last summer. “But I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying…I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”

 

Her daughters should both be expelled to make room for more deserving HONEST students. 

Post # 22
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Blushing bee

These people got charged because they didn’t play the game legally. In some cases this is because it was cheaper to play it illegally. A $50k donation doesn’t register for a place like Harvard, while it may be enough to fake an athlete.

Donations could benefit everyone, but they generally don’t, at these places. $1M to your local regional comprehensive university would fund a ton of scholarships. $1M to Harvard typically goes straight into the endowment, to maybe be spent at some point in the future, maybe.

To me, the legal preferential treatment given to athletes is bizarre. What is the possible reasoning for this? Even if we’re just talking crude profit motive, there are only a handful of schools that make money on athletics.

Post # 23
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

llevinso :  I am guessing they were only able to charge the parents who had a paper trail- Lori Loughlin specifically acknowledged in an email that she was paying this guy to fabricate her daughters’ athletic history. In fact, I think she even specifically instructed the guy to make sure to avoid any direct contact with her daughters’ high school guidance counselor, who had already blown the whistle on them once. Maybe she cc’d her husband on the email or something.

 

Also agree with you that while throwing money down to get something you wouldn’t get without money is hardly news, this goes beyond that into actual fraud.

Post # 24
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Bumble bee

Not sure what the surprise is. Anyone who has had to fight their way into the prestigious schools the old fashioned way knows this shit goes on.

With an education system that charges and arm and a leg to attend, it’s no wonder the wealthy (and I mean the truly wealthy) will have the ability to buy material advantages for their kids.

 

Post # 25
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2016

Tatum :  Maybe you’re right about the paper trail. From what I’ve read/heard about this, Macy was definitely involved, at least in the discussions about fabricating SAT scores. But I think the only actual charges against the two actresses at this time are mail related. But one would think there would have to be IRS problems as well because apparently the way these people covered up their payments for this scheme was by donating to Singer’s fake charity and then deducting the donations on their taxes. Ridiculous! 

Post # 26
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

llevinso :  If that’s the case, then I am sure Macy’s day is coming (about charitable donations). Good, I’ve been wanting him to leave the show Shameless for the last 4 seasons. Maybe now it will happen.

Post # 27
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Helper bee

ariesscientist :  Agree on the letting kids with terrible grades into schools because of sports is messed up. But that kid is a money maker to the school. So they don’t care. 

Post # 28
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Helper bee

Windborn :  It goes beyong the school admissions. I noticed at my college that students would sit there and cheat in plain view of the professor. Like front row seats with multiple papers that were NOT the test scattered before them… in a SENIOR LEVEL ENGINEERING COURSE. It couldn’t be more obvious. They were even noisy about it… passing old tests around with the answers.

I literally went to the professor and complained my a$$ off. This is beyond me being pissed about fairness in grades and effort… its the fact that these men and women are supposed to be educated well in engineering. Who wants an incompetent engineer that cheated his or her way entirely through college to build things? That could kill people!

Post # 29
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Blushing bee

While I understand that this is different than the traditional way of paying your kids to get  in university, it’s not that surprising. When enough people have millions to throw as a bribe, I mean donation you need come up with alternative. In this case they got busted. I assume that this has been going on for years. 

For a foreigner the US college admission system has always looked corrupt, expensive and just insane. I decided to go to grandschool in the UK and there were a lot of students from the USA. I was really shocked on how openly their were cheating and sharing info about the writing service they used for their thesis. It as an eye opening experience that this really happens.

Post # 30
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Sugar bee

I cant say im surprised by any of this either. I am more surprised that they were actually charged. They didnt cover their tracks well and took it a step further than most (changing SAT scores) but at the end of the day people have been bribing college admissions for a loooong time. 

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