(Closed) Complaint Against Several Designers for "Plus Size" Dresses

posted 4 years ago in Dress
Post # 16
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2015

I mean…you kind of have to go in knowing bridal sizes (and therefore Bridesmaid or Best Man sizes) are different from street sizes, which are prone to vanity sizing. It’s a different industry, and they order by your largest measurement.

My sister (a 2) had to get a size 12 Bridesmaid or Best Man dress. It only had to be taken in 1″ and hemmed.

I am a 12 in dresses, and my wedding gown was a 22.

Post # 17
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

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Butterfly6:  drives me craaaazy. I’m a UK 12 but I wear 14’s and 10’s and a couple of 16’s. Sometimes its vanity sizing buecause I sure as shit am not a 10 but I don’t think I’m a 16 either. Ugh!!!

Post # 18
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

I agree with previous posters in the sense that you shouldn’t be mad at the bridal industry you should be mad at the “street clothes” manufacturers. Vanity sizing is real. Companies will call a true size 10 a size 4 because they know they will sell more of them. Think about it, are you more likely to buy something if you’re a smaller size at that store? Most women will. It makes them feel good to be able to say, “I’m a size 4,” rather than a size 10. We are so used to this sizing that when you go in to be measured for a dress that is manufactured closer to true sizing, women get upset. I get it. I think the biggest issue here, as others have said, is to make sure the consultant treated your sister the same no matter what size. As long as that was done, there is not much you can complain about. It wasn’t the consultants fault, just as it isnt the bridesmaid dress manufacturers fault what size any person is. Plus, every single person has to go up in sizing. Not just plus sized women. 

Post # 19
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Newbee
  • Wedding: September 2016

The thing I’ve noticed – if it’s not a full skirt from the waist, I have to go up multiple sizes.  I’m a 10/12 UK which matches the top of dresses on me.  But nothing but the full skirts are cut to fit hips.  To get even a mild fit and flare zipped up, I was in a 22. Everything else is far too big to take in properly.  Didn’t make me happy as I like the dress style on me, but not much I can do. So I decided I’m going short and as fluffed out as possible. Because I can.

Post # 20
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2016

To the ladies talking about men’s sizing, there’s actually been studies comparing waist measurements to size across brands, and apparently men are getting the vanity sizing now, too! Old Navy was one of the worst offenders. 

Post # 21
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2017

I agree with PP’s that street clothes sizing is to blame. I mean, I know this isn’t regular clothes but when I got sized at Victoria’s Secret I was told I was a 32Dear Daughter… I’m like, maybe a B cup on a good day and I can’t even breathe in a 32. Was it a tiny moment of ego inflation? Sure. Was it true? Absolutely not.

And I definitely find this mentality at almost all women’s clothing retailers.

Post # 22
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2016 - Athol Hall, Mosman

It’s so fricken confusing to shop as a plus sized gal. I normally shop from size charts now. I can’t go into any store and go “hey, i’m so & so size”. TTS, I’m prolly a 22, but with vanity sizing, I can run from 18 – 26. I’m glad I had found this forum and watched all the other brides tell us about their shopping experiences, so I was expecting to go into the bridal salon and get a size 26 – 28 dress. I ended up buying a size 18W ball gown from AA. So much for steeling the nerves.

Post # 24
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Honey bee

Why are bridal sizes different from street sizes? Does anybody know? Seems a bit dumb when you think about it.

Post # 25
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2015

Unfortunately (or fortunately ๐Ÿ™‚ ? ) women’s bodies are very complicated to make dresses for,  and you can’t expect that a waist and neck measurements are all that’s needed.  No matter what,  you need alterations of some sort, so that should never surprise/anger/demean you.  What is unfortunate,  is the vanity sizing that is severely out of control in the US.  When I go back to Ukraine to visit family,  i sometimes shop in local boutiques,  which carry European designers.  I’m always 1-2 sizes larger than in US clothes.  What is really annoying, is that in the U.S. a  size 6 feels like a parachute already,  and it should be quite small! 

Post # 26
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Newbee
  • Wedding: September 2016

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observer:  The bridal sizing is actually closer to true sizing. US clothing however is typically heavily vanity sized.  I’m a 10/12 in UK tops, depends on how fluffy the boobs are that day.  In US tops, I run from an XS to an XL, and a 2-16. The 16/XL is probably accurate enough to deal with the boobs, which means everything else is huge.  Or why I’m buying non US shirts all the time.  But in no form am I an XS or a 2. I’m just not.

Post # 27
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2016

I find this really fascinating because here in Australia the bridal gowns are actually smaller sizes than our everyday wear. I usually wear a size 12, but my dress is a size 10. Same with one of my BMs and the other Bridesmaid or Best Man is usually a size 8 and had to order a size 6. I guess I thought this was universal to m the bridal party feel good about themselve, but now I’m confused lol. 

OP I’m sorry to hear about your sister being upset. That would be horrible. I hope she keeps up the great progress on making herself healthier and happier! 

Post # 29
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2017 - Hogarths, Solihull

Oh my god. Give both of your BMs a massive hug from me. That’s sh*t. 

I lost 4 stone a couple of years back and went from a UK 16/18 to a UK10. I’m now a UK 10-12 (weight has crept on a bit since engagement) and the dress I tried on was a bridal size 14 (mori lee)

The sizes are all wrong and I think they’re crappy no matter what size you are. I particularly feel for your sister though ๐Ÿ™ to have done all that work and have them try and fob you off with a size 32 is awful ๐Ÿ™ 

Post # 30
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2016 - Athol Hall, Mosman

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mandygurl88:  I hear you but it’s not the designers that get the alteration money; it would be the bridal salons. I’m glad that you’ve got something for your sister.

When I was researching, I saw a huge difference in the “regular” sized dresses vs. the “plus” sized ones and took note of which designers looked after the plus sized brides (Bonny, Mori Lee, AA, Roz La Kelin, WToo….). I had to strictly avoid the more couture designers because their size charts were just so crazy. TBH, I have no idea how they came up with the sizing but I wish they they would just go by measurements. It would be so much easier and less traumatic!

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