(Closed) Conflict Free Ladies…

posted 6 years ago in Dress
  • poll: Would you buy a dress from a country without actual fair wages?
    YES! Anything I can do to save money. : (29 votes)
    55 %
    No, I wouldn't separate my views on blood diamonds from those of factory workers. : (18 votes)
    34 %
    Other : (6 votes)
    11 %
  • Post # 4
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    7902 posts
    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort

    Just because a dress is made in China doesn’t mean it was made by poorly treated workers. Perhaps you could look into the supply chain of the individual manufacturers you are interested in. So many dresses are made in China even when the designers are American, British, Greek, Spanish, whetever. A dress made in America… that’s usually the top line by major designers. If you have the money… go for it.

    Post # 5
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    14481 posts
    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    Cheap wages are better than no wages.  Given the option, I believe people would rather work for what little they can than not work and have nothing.  There just arent that many other options.  It’s a grim reality, and at this point, nothing short of a miracle is going to change that.  Do you ever shop at Walmart? Target? Buy Fisher Price toys?  Towels? Clothes? Coats? Just about everything is made where the labor is cheaper.  Just because you’re not supporting it, doesnt mean you’re helping the people who are desperate for these wages imo. We have minimum wage laws, but still have a boat load of people living under the proverty line.  Where we spend our money is so filtered through the companys presidents and high ups that it barely has an effect on people.  How rich are the Waltons and Walmart empire?  And how well are their employees doing?  It’s an American company but it’s profits sure dont trickle down to their American employees.  I feel like its the same with buying American made (if there’s such a thing anymore), the heads swim in profits, and the majority of grunt working employees just get enough to get by.  It’s sort of like the Haiti disaster to me… people didnt want to go there on cruises and drink and party in the mist of the disaster, but by not doing so, they no longer brought in desparately needed tourist dollars and was probably causing more harm to the economy than good.  China would probably be completely devesated if they were no longer to produce goods to the world.

    Post # 8
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    7902 posts
    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: March 2012 - Pelican Grand Beach Resort

    @nineteen87:  I’m know some of the problem is at Americans aren’t trained in textiles that much anymore and the ones that are want a lot of money.  At least with wedding dresses if you go through an actual designer and not just a brandor knock off, the label is hiring trained professionals because the work is technical andmust be meticulous. It’s not like making jeans or a cocktail dress. I’m inclined to believe that most of the men and women making wedding dresses are better off than their other textile counterparts. 

     It’s a good question and something to think about. I hope you didn’t feel like I was being feisty… Didn’t mean to come off that way. I didn’t really follow your comment about sourcing in the original post because it came after what looked like a statement that you certainly wouldn’t buy a dress from China. I thought you were talking about sourcing from US, Canada, and Europe. 

    Post # 10
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    1844 posts
    Buzzing bee

    @nineteen87:  some ladies can be fiesty, but don’t take it personally, this topic just brings up alot of emotions, at least I know it does in my circle of friends. 

    I spent weeks to make sure the diamond in my e-ring was conflict free, a ‘vintage’ diamond from Canada. I typically buy clothing used or through companies who I know have sustainable practices, but with my wedding dress I did not think to check. I am curently merging two dresses together, a simple lace dress that I got from ‘The Limited’ and a dress my aunt wore years ago. There is not a bridal salon anywhere near my town, but if I were to purchase a gown again, and if it had to be new I would much prefer it to be a made in USA/CAN/Europe garment. 

    Post # 12
    Member
    5096 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    @nineteen87:  I don’t have an e-ring, my wedding band was my grandmother’s, and my wedding dress was made by a close friend in Oregon. So I’m conflict free on that score. But I couldn’t tell you where the silk for my dress was made, nor the metal mined for her needles and sewing machine.

    I try to support local business and avoid chains as much as possible, but I’m not willing to make the commitment that would be necessary to source every item I consume.

    Any time there’s a question about personal consumption politics, discussions get heated and people feel attacked/judged. I’ve seen it with questions about being vegetarian too. (Which I am – though I didn’t start those discussions.)

    Post # 14
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    2494 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: July 2012

    Yes, I would (and was going to) buy a dress from China, but didn’t because I found one in Canada. I also bought most of my DIY items direct from China or other countries. Do I agree with labour treatment? Heck no. Do I have the money to spend outrageously inflated prices on stupid things like ribbon buckles ($0.10 each in china, and $3 each in Canada for the SAME BUCKLE!!!), beads (no thank you to Michael’s who wanted $8.99 for 50 when I bought 3000 for $22), or fans? Not a chance.

    If local markets could start selling things at less than 5-10 times more than what they paid, I might buy local more often.

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