(Closed) Conservatives: Why aren’t you speaking up?!?!?!

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Post # 17
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: June 2019

I think Chicagobride has a good point – is it really up to us to decide who should and should not be married?

My wedding is two months away and I am getting more and more excited everyday.  I have a close friend who has been in a long relationship with her partner, and the fact that she cannot experience that same excitement is saddening.  I also think about the fact that I am white and my fiance is Latino/black, and that fifty years ago (or even more recently) this would have prevented us from being together in many states.  I find it absurd that a man and a woman can walk into a courthouse and get married after days of knowing eachother, while two people who love and are commited to eachother cannot be given that same right.  

I consider myself politically conservative, but I think this whole issue will eventually destroy any conservative base.  Hopefully, the younger generation will not acceptance discrimination. 

Post # 19
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: December 2015

This is not a blog/website about being conservative or not. Its suppose to be about wedding planning and sharing all the excitement that it brings.

So why express an opinion that would make others feel uncomfortable. In this matter NOT speaking up is a respect for others decisions. 

Post # 20
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2010

Is it really fair to assume that all conservative people are against same sex marriage, or is that a generalization? And, does someone automatically support the health care bill because they’re liberal? It doesn’t seem to make sense to categorize such a wide variety of people into two distinct buckets.

Bottom line — I feel that government involvement is beneficial to some extent, and it definitely plays a vital role in our society. But, I don’t think it’s really government’s business to manage people’s personal affairs at the granular level that they sometimes do. I guess I’m more libertarian than anything. 

Addition: I do agree that a minority of people are often times the loudest. For example, the recent California University protests. My Fiance is a state worker, and has many state worker friends. They are all taking pay cuts. Many are on one income and the upcoming paycut will be a major setback for them. In my last job, I worked with all public California Universities. The furlough/budget cuts we’ve seen over the last couple of years has been an absolute nightmare for these schools. Professors are being fired, faculty is being cut, classes don’t have the funding they need, and everyone is taking mandatory furlough days. So, why are college students on campus protesting fee increases? I don’t think this is necessarily the majority opinion, but the message is sure sent loud and clear. We all choose to live in this state (those of us in CA) and we all need to share the burden of the tough economic times. University fees are not unreasonable, and I’m just shocked at the inconsideration and feeling of entitlement that I see in my generation, myself included.

Post # 21
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Newbee
  • Wedding: January 2015

Probably because a lot of people – especially those who frequent online forums – simply don’t think that way

Post # 22
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: March 2014

I wonder if it is a regional thing? I consider myself a liberal, but I live in Waco, TX.

Yes, THE Waco, TX.

And if I had a dollar for every breakroom conversation I listen to about “big government”, or socialized healthcare, or impeaching Obama, or how incredible of a president Sarah Palin would be….

well I could buy myself a moose hunting trip to Alaska.

Down here, conservatives are *very* vocal, and I just try to keep my trap shut, rather than ruffle feathers at work.

Post # 23
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2010

@marywil1–  Wonderfully put!!!!

Post # 24
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

I actually suggested a reason: there may in fact be many more liberal bees than conservative ones. And no, we are not bullies, but if you say things that I consider inflammatory and disagree with I am going to put my opinion out there.

Post # 26
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: June 2019

Good point torybrian; Since when did conservative mean anti-same sex marriage and anti Obama?

Post # 27
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

Perhaps people arent speaking up because more and more people are opening their minds and realizing that marriage is for everyone not just a  man and a woman.

Go to FOX news and spread your hate somewhere else, k thanks.

Post # 28
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: March 2014

Uhoh. Here we go.

Post # 29
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Busy bee

@mrsjellybean – actually, a my partner, who is a conservative libertarian would agree with chicagobride’s argument – as generally conservatives don’t want big government for example.  and as a decidedly left of center (and certainly far more so than he is) person, i agree with her too.

also it makes sense that people would be more liberal leaning in general – we have a more liberal government in office right now and we voted them in as a nation. i know a lot of people are not happy with the current regime of course.

but i’m ending my argument here. 

Post # 30
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: January 2013

I don’t think people who identify as conservative are any quieter than they once were, and I’m certain that people who identify as conservative still make up around 50% of our country.  I still hear plenty of them speak up, and I’m on one of the most liberal college campuses in the US (we often truthfully joke that it is much harder to come our as a Republican than it is to come out as gay).  Whether more people have come to accept gay couples’ rights to a partnership recognized by the US government is a different story perhaps.  I was going to say what wildstyle said.  Maybe you’re more conscious of liberals because we currently have a Democrat as president and a Democratic majority in congress.

Post # 31
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2012

@MrsJellybean227 – I really did get the point of your question, and that’s why I said that I thought about not responding and felt like I was hijacking your thread. I understand threads to vent about being in the minority of something – I’ve started one myself. I was just making a point that we have plenty of LGBT bees in our community, and it’s really hurtful to make that comparison. I apologize if you didn’t mean to, but that’s how I read it. I fully support your actual question, but I felt that it was important to reply to that specific wording. 

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