Post # 17
The moving violation shouldn’t put points on your license because although they can prove it was your car they cannot prove you were driving. My friends (ex) bf ran a red light in her car and the camera caught him. He had to pay the ticket but her insurance was not notified.
Post # 18
Well, I could be wrong but then I’m from California and I know for a fact that they do not personally serve you if you receive a camera traffic ticket. Maybe other states have a different process. Might have to Google this:)
Post # 19
I don’t know anyone that can say they ALWAYS come to a complete stop at every light/sign. 🙂
Sometimes if you plead guilty the judge will automatically reduce the cost…sometimes.
Post # 20
Yup, I would go to court too, but instead plead “no contest”. That’s what I did for a speeding ticket and the judge dropped the fee to like 30$. With my 80$ court fee I ended up saving like 40$. Not a huge savings, but it’s something…
Post # 21
the ticket gets assigned to the vehicle registration, not the owner, because they can’t prove who was driving.
I can’t say this for all states, but the way a camera ticket works is that the ticket is NOT assessed to the driver, but to the registration. You cannot be given points, your insurance company cannot raise your rates, because its not assigned to a person. That’s why most people just pay and don’t show up, and that’s why cameras are there, because the gov agencies realize that by not assessing points and tickets to a person, people are more likely to pay the ticket than contest it
That said, its really hard to get off on a red light ticket
Post # 22
The city of Los Angeles does not enforce red light camera tickets. In fact, they will be stopping the program soon. In the past, people just ignored them and they also never received any marks against their license or any fines. The people who paid basically did so because they did not know the law, and paid on a “volunteer” basis.
There was a recent story about this on NPR. The California state courts will not recognize a mailed ticket as properly served. This is the main reason that LA is getting rid of them.
Post # 23
Okay, I was right, at least as far as California is concerned: The officer has to show proof that the ticket was mailed to you (i.e. delivery confirmation or certified).
And I went to the link and yes, they do say you can claim you never got the ticket but if an officer shows up to serve you personally, then you’re still in the same boat. Plus, if you just ignore it and you get pulled over again, then it’s even more trouble.
So, I guess I still vote “guilty”. But those cameras do suck. I’m so glad I don’t have to deal with them anymore.
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Post # 25
Calfornia has special exemptions too. Just recently hundreds of red camera tickets were thrown out due to various “complications” with the system.
I would look into the rules in NM first before doing anything. Is there anyone that you can ask?
(PS We love NM! I am coming to NM at the end of the month for the balloon festival, we loved it so much last year we are coming again. End threadjack).
Post # 26
Traffic light cameras are hard to dispute. But I know that in Texas, even if you come to a complete stop, but the bumper of your car is over the line, it is a rolling stop.
I have been pulled over by an officer for this, and my Father (cop) was unable to get it dropped. (I have gotten the stupidest tickets…and for those I call daddy).
It was also the same for the brief time that I lived in Arkansas.
So if the same applies in Washington…and your bumper is over the line in the picture/video, then you actually “ran” the red light and are guilty.
However…if you want to know how to get out of a turn signal ticket let me know…I am a pro!
Post # 27
You have to sign for certified mail. That’s basically personal service.
Post # 28
LOL, a turn signal ticket was the first ticket I ever got– when I was 16!