Post # 31
I agree with everything other bees have said but there is also stupidity going on in America. Our pathetic leadership has made covid into a political issue. Wearing a mask means you are democratic and not wearing one makes you republican, it’s stupid. I go to the store and no one is wearing a mask. I can understand people working because they have to go about life but people are also just not into wearing mask for some reason and it’s “freedom”.
Post # 32
I work at the hospital and patients their families give us constant grief about visiting policy (even though our hospital still allows visitors, a lot other don’t), we have asked family members wear masks and they don’t want to, patients are given masks and asked to wear them when we are in the room and they don’t want to. It’s annoying to keep having to ask and they make us feel like the bad guy. We are protecting you by wearing a mask for 12+ hours, patients/families can wear a mask for 20 mins at a time people are in their room … end rant. There just should not be any excuse for now wearing a mask at all.
Post # 33
just would like to say I agree because I don’t think people understand that even though on your INCOME TAX FILING you won’t be penalized, there is no such thing as free money. They had to get that money from SOMEWHERE and they are going to have to TRY to get that money back in SOMEWAY. Whether that is through higher federal taxes, sales tax etc. I personally don’t think I that we just got this stimulus check and there is no butterfly effect somewhere in our economy from it. Also I understand this is not the point of the thread but just wanted to say I understood what you were trying to say.
Post # 34
Couldn’t help but think of your post when I saw this article:
Republicans have finally got Trump to say something positive about masks, so I think the Right is finally waking up, but it’s a lot of too little, too late.
Post # 35
- Wedding: September 2017 - California
Wow. I thought I had heard it all, but this is just nuts. Patients who are in the hospital or visiting people in the hospital STILL refuse to wear masks??!! I see lots of people not wearing masks outside but I was holding out a little teeny bit of hope that it’s just because they are outside at the moment (I still wear a mask outside though), but not wearing a mask in a hospital is beyond the pale. I’m so sorry to hear that you have to deal with that.
Post # 36
Similar population and area of spread . This chart doesn’t even account for the last few crazy days!
Post # 37
Yep, nothing like nationwide protests and riots on top of Memorial day to spike the numbers. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by that graph.
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Post # 39
Agreed. I’ve heard the same. It’s those damn family/friend get togethers that have been really crippling.
Post # 40
This just shows the racist narrative that is ingrained in our cultures. It is happening here where I live as well. I am in Victoria, Australia and our daily numbers have tripled since last week and people are trying to blame the BLM protests for the outbreaks. And Sky news (our murdoch run version of fox) has been running the story that the South Sudanese community celebrating Ramadan and Eid are to blame for the spike. 90% of the South Sudanese community are Christain so not sure why they would be holding large gatherings to celebrate religious holidays of Islam. But hey the racists are buying it up and spreading it all over facebook. Even despite one of the “journalists” sprouting this nonsense publically saying she was incorrect. @Horseradish:
Post # 41
According to one of the largest healthcare organuzatuins in Texas, it’s actually bars and churches that are the riskiest places to be. Coincidentally, in the states with the highest rates of current infection, restrictions were loosened or lifted on churches and bars about 2 weeks before these upward trends.
Meanwhile, in Washington, DC– the scene of some of the largest and most prolonged civil rights protests and a city that is still fairly well locked down — here’s their numbers.
a few days stale but the most recent chart I could find, and as far as I know, DC is not having a recent resurgence.
people like blaming the protests because it fits their narrative which as j_jaye mentions is often influenced by racism, and because it lets them feel like they can continue to be careless because someone else is a bigger contributor to the spiral, when in reality it’s bars and churches that are the hotspots.
Post # 42
See, I’m just sitting here hating Florida. That is all.
Post # 43
Thank you everone for such an informative and useful discussion . Nothing like a bunch of women if you want a balanced and interesting take , even where obviously disagreeing .
Post # 44
As PPs have stated, the spikes aren’t really due to protesters. And it’s not just some convenient political narrative. The protests are outdoors, and being outdoors is far safer.
The appropriate social distance to prevent spread is different depending on whether you’re indoors or outdoors. Part of the problem is that state policies aren’t really guided by science. Opening up beaches and outdoor areas is probably a good thing, but opening up bars and restaurants with indoor seating is entirely another and should be avoided as long as it’s feasible.
Post # 45
majority of the patients room i visit i have to ask families to please put your mask on and then I have to ask the patients to put their masks on as well and a lot of patients/families refuse until I say it’s hospital policy. There are then some not a lot but few everyday who get upset and start being rude about having to wear a mask and then some who throw tantrums crying/screaming etc “get me your manager” types as well.