Post # 1
I just came across the concept of crate training for dogs and it left me wondering. My family has owned multiple dogs and I’ve never heard of it.
What’s your experience with it? Also, I’m not clear if dogs should stay in their crate at night, or during the day when you’re at work, or in what other circumstances.
Post # 2
We did it with our dog. It’s been really helpful for us. He stays in his crate when we are not at home adn at night. He only stays in his crate at night because he’s not mature enough to not tear apart the house when we are asleep. But that’s the only time he’s in the crate
Post # 3
We did crate training and had no issues with it. My dog was crated during the day when we went to work for about a year (or less) I believe. And crated at night for about 6 months. Otherwise if we were home, he was free to roam. We basically did it for potty training and until we were sure we could trust him not to destroy anything.
Post # 4
We used it when our dogs were puppies. We had a pen in the kitchen for during the day when we were at work, and then at night they went in their crates. Any time we were home/awake they were out of the crate.
We don’t use them any more, but we keep one open in our bedroom and they often sleep in it.
Post # 5
I researched the matter a bit… In my country, crates used for any extended period (so “home crates”, not crates for transportation) are legally required to be at least 3x2x1 the lenght of the pet, tail included. I guess that’s why it is not common here… With a medium size dog I wouldn’t even know where to fit a crate that big! I’d have to move the sofa outdoor 😀
Post # 6
I have four dogs and crate them regularly while I’m out. My dogs’ crates are huge for their size; they have their own bedroom in my house for their crates, food, etc.
They go straight in for a treat and curl up for a nap in their blankets. When I’m home, they’re always out and have access to a dog door. It’s just much easier to have peace of mind being away when I know they’re all secure and safe. With four of them, I never know if there could be a scuffle over a toy.
Post # 7
pinkglasses : That is an interesting size rule. The guideline we used was that he just needs to be able to stand and turn around comfortably. It needs to be small enough so that they don’t go to the bathroom in it. If it’s too large, they can go in the corner and then avoid that spot and defeats the purpose of crating training to hold it since the idea is that they wont pee where they lie.
Post # 8
ChasingZenith : wow, with four dogs I bet you need that peace of mind!
Post # 9
I feel that crating depends on the dog. My first dog was awesome. She potty trained herself as a 9 week old pup and didn’t chew excessively despite being a lab mix. She didn’t need to be crated. The only time I crate trained her was when I moved overseas And crate trained her so she would be more comfy in a crate during the flight.
Now my current dog is a different animal. It took far longer to housebreak her. She’d still have an occasional accident until she was 7 months old. And she still had submissive urination once in awhile. She also chews on everything. In my old house, I left her in the bathroom rather than crating her, but with the new home, my husband wanted us to crate train her. Plus the dog boarder suggested it so she’d be more used to a crate during boarding.
So we started crate training her to give her a safe place to be when we were asleep or couldn’t watch her. We both work from home, so she isn’t typically crated in the day, but she does sleep in her crate and occasionally goes in there to nap.
We started slow with feeding her in the crate, then closing the door for progressively longer amounts of time. Then leaving the room with the door closes. By The Way, lots of treats in this process. This got her to go direct to the crate at bedtime when we give the command, but it’s only in the last week or so that I’ve noticed her snoozing in her crate without us telling her to go there.
Post # 10
My pupper has some major anxiety when we aren’t home so she is crated all day. She actually hangs out in her crate while we are there and always gets treats when we lock it. She’s allowed to roam while we are sleeping.
Post # 11
Crate training puppies or dogs with behavioral issues is great! Works really well with a lot of dogs. But it’s *training,* not lifestyle. I give a serious side eye to anyone who crates their adult dogs without extenuating circumstances (like behavioral issues or injury).
Post # 12
Crate training is fantastic and gives them a place to feel safe especially if you travel or move. We crate trained both our pups and moving was a breeze. We also take the pups on vacation and they never get anxious or anything staying in the hotel room by themselves because they had their den. They love their crates so much now we don’t have to lure them or put them into it, they just go in when they want to rest. It’s also great for potty training because they will never pee or poop in their sleeping space.
But it has to be done properly. They can’t be forced in, it should be done in small intervals at first, and the crate can’t be a replacement for proper doggy parenting (ie. you can’t just leave the dog in there to ignore it.) The crate also can never be used for punishment. They have to learn to love it, not be scared of it.
Post # 13
When I got my dog, we did not crate train him. He has always had free roam of our house. He has a giant crate now, but that was mostly for our future second dog (which didn’t work out). He voluntarily goes there to sleep sometimes. He also likes going there when he is scared of our cracking toaster oven sounds. It gives him a safe spot to hide.
My dog is nondestructive in our apartment, but I think it was due to our adoption counselor who told us how to prevent separation anxiety. We left for short intervals and when we returned, we pretty much ignored him and went on our business. I found out just recently that he CAN be destructive when left alone but only when at unfamiliar places. He destroyed a guest house when he was left there by himself.
I think the crate would also be great if we do get a second dog again, just so she would have a place to decompress. There are articles on the “2 week shut down” for new dogs entering the household. I never tried this, but it might be good for shy and fearful dogs who need time to take things in before they participate.
Post # 14
pinkglasses : we tried it but it didn’t work for us. The vet said it’s normal that it doesn’t work with dogs with a lot of anxiety as ours has, so he doesn’t suggest forcing it.
In fact my vet is against crates in general, but I didn’t know that when we first got our dog. We were just trying to do what we read was the thing to do with your new dog.
Obviously a lot of people have success with crates, but there are also lots who are against it now, for various reasons, so it’s not the holy grail. I wish people were more aware of how detrimental it can be with dogs who have anxiety, though!
Post # 15
pinkshoes : giving the dog some space to properly move is just the point of that rule. It is also for extended-but-not-so-much periods of time (like an afternoon or a grocery store trip). For crates used for entire nights or days, the law states even bigger requirements and a corner equipped for the dog’s deeds – and I think a constant water supply was mentioned somewhere but I don’t remember in which circumstances it was required.
So I guess over here it would be illegal to potty train a dog by closing him in a small crate for the night :O