"Day Without a Woman"

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 121
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Buzzing Beekeeper
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Katie-Didnt :  Ha, good call. Didn’t even notice that.

Post # 122
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Blushing bee

FutureDrAtkins :  I agree with some of her points. That doesn’t make me a fan girl. I disagree with her insults. Now I disagree with yours. I already left my stance in my first comment on this thread. There’s no need to get pissy with me because you can’t continue to play the victim. But of course I don’t want to derail the thread. Well let it be. 

Katie-Didnt :  Salty much? I joined yesterday and have commented on other threads. I don’t know why it doesn’t show up in my comments but I’m sure you can look at my history. 

Post # 123
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2015

This thread, lawd…

Well I’m making a donation to Planned Parenthood today to make my contribution to today’s occassion.  I’m aware that many people live in “Right to work” states, so taking a day off may be a risk.  But donating or volunteering for worthy causes makes an impact as well. 

VioletSeas :  For some reason, it takes The Bee a day or so to update post counts.

Post # 124
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

I agree with jiminycricket that the organization and overall purpose of the strike seems disorganized and I’m not sure of the main message and therefor can’t see it being very effective. 

BUT the part of the strike today that makes the least amount of sense to me is encouraging women to not do any unpaid work either. At least in the sources I’ve seen, they encourage women to not do dishes, looking after kids, cooking, all of the unpaid work that women do. I think we can all agree that women do more of this than men (in most cases, not all obviously). But how does stopping this hurt anyone but your own family? Sure, if your kids and husband are generally unappreciative I can see it having a local impact. But my husband DOES appreciate all that I do. Stopping won’t help increase any awareness for that. Do I really need to hurt my husband (and theoretical kids for all of you moms)? 

And if my husband was sexist and in charge of a lab at work (for example), having more appreciation for my unpaid work at home won’t suddenly cause him to see that women should also be appreciated in the work place. Working in the home and working in a male dominated field do not have a huge correlation in the views of a sexist male. In the worst cases of sexist men, I could almost see this back firing. If women suddenly work more, then they can’t do more around the house and that’s where they are really needed – type of attitude. 

Post # 125
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2016

MrsMellyBean :   that’s fair.. but like you I didn’t hear about the strike until late last night. Just like in “real” strikes, a day-without strike requires everyone do it together.. the lack of solid communication and coordination is part of what makes me question what the strike can accomplish and whether if has a goal at all.

JiminyCricket :  yeah, that’s what I was replying to.. just chiming in that I feel similar.  

Post # 126
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Bumble bee

amanda1988 :  Again, I don’t speak for everyone or know what it means to others. I’m just stating what it means to me personally. With “real” strikes, there are unions involved- it’s kind of hard to have a union for all the women out there. Plus some women apparently don’t agree that it’s required because they believe that equality has been achieved. I’m not saying the strike is or isn’t an effective tool- you asked people what they hoped would be the outcome or what people thought the point was, mine is what I stated above. Maybe as years go by, people will become more aware of the strike and choose to join. It’s a new concept that is gaining steam, it’ll take some time for people to be made aware of it, like anything else.

Post # 127
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Bumble bee

Im participating today by not picking up extra hours at my job. My company is always struggling to get extra coverage. I work in a large mostly female workplace as a flight attendant. I can work a 9 hour day and have only 3 hours of those paid (for example) The rest of the day is unpaid labor. We have a day on the schedule that’s 12 hours with only 1.25 hours paid work. 

I’m also participating by not shopping today. Women have a huge voice when it comes to how we spend. 

Today I stand with all women and encourage women to participate in a way that works best for them and her economic situation. 

Post # 128
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So on a lighter note, if any of you ladies are thinking about purchasing makeup, check out Juvia’s Place and Coloured Raine Cosmetics (black female owners) and MakeupGeek Cosmetics (female owner). 

Post # 129
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Busy bee

Let’s all talk about how important and valuable us ladies are in a thread that devolves into a cat fight. I hope influential people don’t stumble across this thread.

Anyway, I went to work today because there are only women in our office and we serve elderly clients. They would’ve been screwed without us so we didn’t even consider not going to work.

Post # 132
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MrsMellyBean :  sure. I was just having a discussion with you as you replied to me and the rest of this thread is currently a bit hard to follow from my phone at work.

fwiw, general strikes don’t have unions for the very same reason, just mass participation. that’s why I brought them up. I used “real” not to say a union rep is required, just mass participation and the willingness to not work until a goal is achieved. sorry that that was unclear. 

I do wonder too if this is just a step towards something bigger… leading up to an actual general strike, perhaps. that’s why despite not striking today I wanted to wear a red shirt.. show that even if I don’t get it, I support the women who feel so strongly about this event that they risk their jobs to support it.  Im totally aware that just because I don’t know or understand what’s going on doesn’t mean it’s not important.

Post # 133
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Bumble bee

amanda1988 :  Ahh ok I see where you’re coming from with regards to the “real” strike thing- I guess I generally refer to strikes that are not related to specific labour boards/unions as protests or marches. I do think the lack or participation is due to the fact that a lot of people weren’t aware of it until today (like us!), and as others have mentioned, it’s just not feasible for some people depending on their financial situation or line of work. I appreciate the fact that you are supporting other women even if you don’t personally face discrimination or sexism 🙂 .  

Post # 134
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Bumble bee

chocochai :  isn’t it crazy? This article explains it a little. Airlines fall under transportation and are covered under different federal laws. The unpaid times of my day are often the most taxing. Helping with bags, boarding, cleaning and safety related checks too. Not to mention I don’t really get a break during my day. 

http://labor-employment-law.lawyers.com/wage-and-hour-law/transportation-industry-exemptions-under-the-flsa.html

Post # 135
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Bumble bee

amanda1988 :  In many ways activism within itself is an experiment and a call to general awareness about the issue. Which means sometimes, communication and general execution of certain parts of a movement get watered-down or miss their mark.

The women’s march movement, much like other grassroots movements popping up these days are all beginning to find their footing and their voice. Think back to the Tea Party movement when it was a mish-mosh of many different factions of conservatism- overall the message was they didn’t want the ACA, but it also came down to guns, to tackling the national debt, to dismantling the federal government to… weird ass peices of it that claimed there was a war on Christmas and Obama was a Kenyan…

So. I agree with a lot of the criticism that some of these movements and days of “striking” and things of that nature may seem sort of scatterbrained or one-sided, but I recognize that its early. The message isn’t 100% on point, but I think it would be a little near-sighted to disregard a lot of the behind-the-scenes of these movements. It’s a lot of people getting involved in a lot of different ways. So we might have to see where it all leads, but awareness if half of the battle. fine-tuning messaging and goals is where the real work comes in and I’m hopeful that is where these sorts of movements are heading.

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