Destination wedding plus courthouse wedding (Australia)

posted 2 years ago in Destination Weddings
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

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Michael2 :  If you are comfortable lying to your nearest and dearest, go ahead and get “married’ again in Austraia. If honesty is a value you profess to have, have a vow renewal in Australia.

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Buzzing Beekeeper

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Michael2 :  “how do they even know we were married” — Do you mean the Australian government or your friends & family?

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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: April 2016

You have to be married in australia by either a registered celebrant, an official with BDM’s or preist etc for your marriage to be legally recognised here. you can go do the Vegas one first and then do the “legal” one in Australia. Legally your wedding anniverary will be the date you sign your certificate in Australia…………..however you can celebrate whatever date you like.

 

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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2019

Don’t lie to the government. People have destination weddings all the time and manage to get through the paperwork.

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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2013

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Michael2 :  I thnk that you technically could get legally married in two differnt countries, but you may have to lie in order to do it.  Both the US and Australia require that you are not presently married in order to issue a marriage lisence, right?  So I think you’d have to ignore that which could potentially reuslt in legal issues down the road.  Seems unlikely to come back to haunt you, but I think it’s a bit of a risk and it seems unnecessary.

In terms of the Aus government recognizing you’re wedding I did some quick online reserach and I don’t think there is anything you need to do.  You just mark yourself down as married whereever relevant and you use your marriage lisence (from either the US or Aus, where ever you end up doing it) if supporting documentation is needed.

 

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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2019

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Michael2 :  IF your Vegas wedding is legal… you’d have to lie on your NOIM form in Australia and I wouldn’t recommend that. I guess you could speak to a chapel in Vegas and explain the situation. Maybe you could have a “ceremony” without signing any legal documents. 

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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2013

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Michael2 :  To make the vegas wedding “not legal” just talk to the officiant about the plan in advance, then don’t get a marriage lisence in the US.  As long as the officiant is ok with it (most will be, some will not), that part is easy.

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Honey bee
  • Wedding: April 2017

I mean a quick Google brought me this: 

Q: Will my marriage in Las Vegas be recognised and valid in Australia?

A. Yes. As long as the marriage was recognised as valid under the law of the country in which it was entered into (the United States) at the time when it was entered into, and would have been recognised as being legal under Australian law if the marriage had taken place in Australia.

Q: Do I need to register my Las Vegas marriage in Australia when I return home?

A: There is no requirement to register a marriage in Australia. The marriage certificate that was issues overseas will be recognised. Those wishing to have their marriage registered in Australia can have a legal ceremony here before or after getting married in Las Vegas.

 

As you say though, I don’t know how the Government would know about it if you didn’t register it in Australia. So that’s a little confusing. 

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Buzzing Beekeeper

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Michael2 :  They know because on the NOIM form that you need to fill out in order to get married in Australia it asks you if you are or have ever been legally married. So if you get legally married in Vegas and then apply to get legally married in Australia you would have to lie on an offical government form. If you do that you are an idiot because it can have very serious consequences.

The same applies for doing it in reverse and getting married in Australia first then in Vegas. The Clark County marriage application asks the same question. 

Please don’t make your guests pay to travel half way across the world to attend a “sham” marriage. Being an adult and getting married is about making choices. Either choose a destination wedding and get married in Vegas (and accept what comes along with that) or choose to get married in Australia. 

If a guest can’t make it to your destination wedding there is no need to throw another wedding. If having them attend your wedding is so important then don’t have a destionation wedding. 

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Helper bee

Australian bee here. You are way overthinking this. 

You just don’t make the Nevada marriage legal – so you don’t submit the paperwork and apostille etc etc in the US and you just get a ceremonial faux certificate. 

And then you return and have the civil ceremony here

You might need to do some research because you can absolutely have a legal marriage in Nevada and then register it with the BDM in your state in Aus, and change your last name to your spouse’s once you receive your certificate of recognition of marriage from the BDM office. 

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