(Closed) Diamond trouble.

posted 7 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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9 posts
Newbee
  • Wedding: May 2012

If indeed there is a problem, I would hope that the jeweler/vendor he bought it from would acknowledge the problem and work with him to fix it, or at least allow him to exchange the stone and pay the difference if need be.

I’m not picky either, so if the speck can’t be seen by the naked eye in broad daylight, I wouldn’t worry.  Hope everything works out:)

Post # 4
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13 posts
Newbee
  • Wedding: November 2011

If it makes him feel better, let him take it to the jeweler and have it inspected. It doesn’t sound like it’s a huge flaw if you’ve just noticed it. Flawless and internally flawless diamonds DO exist, but they are extremely expensive. A 1 carat round, G color, excellent cut, internally flawless stone will cost you about $10,000- at least. And that’s just for the diamond alone. If clarity is what’s important to him, a VS1 or VS2 diamond should be just fine and more budget friendly. My original center stone was not eye clean and you could see all of the inclusions in the daylight. It looked really cloudy. It’s at the jeweler’s now being reset with a better quality stone.

P.S.- I found some of the best prices for quality diamonds at adiamor.com. They are a build your own ring website ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 5
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4415 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2010

Have the ring inspected.  It could be something as simple as something red is stuck in the setting, a thread or whatever. If that is the case, the jeweler will be able to clean it and get whatever is stuck out of it without damaging the setting.  If there is a problem with the stone itself, the jeweler should be able to work out a deal, exchange it with another diamond and let you pay the difference.  Either way, your fiance will have some peace of mind, and that’s important too.

Post # 6
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3281 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2012

Yeah, there is a black spot on my diamond that is hardly noticable. If you look at it very very closely and from a certain angle you can see it. I wouldnt want Fiance to exchange it though, thats the diamon he proposed to me with and I dont care if it has a tiny spec on it ๐Ÿ˜€

Post # 7
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1088 posts
Bumble bee

He can definitely take it to be checked if it will make him feel better.  I agree that it may be somethiing stuck in the setting as a previous poster mentioned.  I know that you have papers for you stone, but is it IF?  If there is in fact an inclusion in the stone and it’s IF, that’s the only way I can see the jeweler possibly doing something, in all honesty.  If you have a VS, SI or I diamond, there is a chance that you may see flaws under some conditions.  I grades are msot likely to show inclusions visible to the naked eye.  SI diamonds may or may not be eye clean, and more than likely, a VS diamond will almost always turn up very eye-clean.

I have an SI diamond that has an inclusion you can see mainly from the back (or from the side now that it’s set), and under certain conditions, you can see an inclusion if you really look for it.  A strong light must shine through the diamond, and on a  certain angle, you can see a small cloud inclusion.  The diamond, however, is considered to be eye-clean (no visible inclusions while looking at it straight on when it is 8-10 inches away).  In normal lighting conditions, you cannot see any obvious flaws.

If your stone is SI or I it is possible that you are in fact seeing some sort of inclusion.  If you’ve had the ring for a little while, and you just now noticed a slight flaw, I honestly wouldn’t worry about it.  It’s probably something that no one will even notice.  I know that with the stone I have, I’ve noticed it’s “flaws” after looking at it for several months under various lighting conditions.  While I love the diamond itself and it is a clean little bugger, I noticed that sometimes it holds the light in certain spots and appears a tad darker.  The more you look at it, the more you’ll notice its distinct characteristics.  Most other people probably won’t even notice it though.  I always tell myself if it took me that long to see it and I’m its biggest critic, no one else is likely to take note of it.

One big pro to knowing your diamond has a tiny mark is that you’ll be able to identify your stone if you ever have work done on your ring.  No one can ever switch it on you without your knowledge!

Post # 8
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7975 posts
Bumble Beekeeper

I thought there was a black spot on my diamond about 2 weeks after I got it. It bugged me for like a month and a half, and one day I read on WB about cleaning your ring with a soft toothbrush and a little windex, rinse in hot water with the drain closed, and I buffed it up – turns out the “black spot” was just lint, and totally went away.

I felt like an idiot, but the lesson I learned was that I know my diamond (heck I spent a lot of time staring at it when I first got it, and still do sometimes!) – if something seems out of place, I notice it. And usually, it’s time to clean it. Which reminds me, it got covered in bbq sauce this weekend during dinner out, and I really need to clean it today… (gross, I know, haha)

My point is, if this is the first time you’ve noticed this spot, it may not be a flaw, it may just be lint. ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 9
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2010

@ChicChick:  Jewelers want repeat business.  The sales people depend on regular customers. I know, because my regular customers when I worked in a jewelry store were the ones who helped me reach my sales quota every month. So you might be surprised by how accomodating a jeweler will be inregards to a diamond. They want their customers to be very happy with the jewelry they get from them, because they want referrals and they want that customer to come back to them and not go to some other jewelery store.

Another thing you might not know about jewelers is the price on the tag is NOT their best price. Always, always, always ask for a lower price on whatever you are buying. There may be a few items they won’t go down on, but don’t be surprised if they go down 20% or more if you ask.

 

Post # 10
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1088 posts
Bumble bee

@Loribeth:  I definitely agree with you in terms of “bargaining” with jewelers.  I know my SO did that for a piece of jewelery he got for me.  He’s a business guy, and he managed to get them to knock 12% off of the price, have it put together (set the stone in the setting) within 3 days, and have it shipped overnight (paid by the jeweler).

 

Post # 11
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277 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

My black diamond has a very small scratch on it… I just noticed it after getting it resized at the jewelers. The lady looked inspected my ring and then showed it to me (they inspect all diamonds before resizing them so that they can’t be blamed if there is anything wrong with it). Now that I know where it is, I can find it if I look REALLY closely. I showed my Fiance, but we both agreed that we would rather keep this diamond. It already has sentimental value to me, and I don’t care if it’s absolutely perfect. Perhaps one day I’ll take it in to see if I can get the scratch removed somehow, but we’ll see. ๐Ÿ™‚

Post # 12
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

Very very VERY few people have absolutely perfect diamonds. Mine is highly graded but it still isn’t perfect, it has two small inclusions that are not visible to the naked eye. It doesn’t bug my Fiance at all because he knew exactly what he was getting when he paid for it. 

Post # 13
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1068 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: March 2011

Have you cleaned your ring? Sometimes, I think my diamond looks cloudy, but that’s because of the gunk that accumulates on it over time (like soap, lotion). After I clean it, it’s cleans and spotless again. It’s a VVS1, so it’s very clear and no visible spots (even with a handheld magnifier). I would say to take it in because a red speck is kind of odd (most blemishes are black spots), so it may be a surface thing.

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: February 2012

I’m not sure where I heard this and I am not a jeweller, but a red spot, if it is a garnet (ruby?) is very rare. (=valuable)

Having said that, all diamonds have inclusions unless you buy internally flawless and even then, with the right magnification, there are inclusions. It’s the nature of a diamond.

He sounds like a wonderful caring guy and wants the best for you. Congrats. Do let us know his findings.

 

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