Post # 107
I would strongly prefer that possible son not be circumcised. I think there’s no medical basis at all for it unless there’s a specific physical issue and I have no religious teaching demanding it.
My husband isn’t sure how he feels about it yet. He wants to do whatever’s ‘normal’ and hasn’t researched it much it yet.
The hospital where I’ll be giving birth refuses to do cosmetic circumcisions because there is no medical benefit to it.
Plus, if you look into the history of male circumcision in North America outside religious communities — which is not a terribly long history — much of it had to do with Victorian pruriance about masturbation. See John Kellogg.
Post # 108
This is interesting. It seems most people would opt to do what their husbands have, which makes sense. If the man is cut, it is unlikely he would want to leave his son uncut and vice versa.
Post # 109
@MrsMaskatoBe: Plus, if we didn’t and he chose to later, it would be more painful and a more drastic procedure.
That’s ironic. What if he decided later that he didn;t want to be cut?
Post # 110
I’m due in August and think about this every day :S I’m so on the fence. My initial reaction is no way – there’s no good reason to do it. Then I think of DH and he is circumcised, so will that cause problems with my future son’s body image? But then, if it’s just cosmetic, I can’t justify it. But then, on the other hand, if it isn’t some horridly painful experience for baby (as PPs saying their baby slept through it) then why not?
I’m not on board with just “leaving it up to DH to decide because he has a penis.” Currently, DH is apathetic about it leaning towards getting it done, but when I told him last night that we should watch videos of the procedure to see what actually happens he was like “Yeah, no way.” To which I said, “So you want to get the baby circumcised but you can’t bring yourself to watch a video of it…? That’s telling.” And he says, “I’m not morally against the most humane way of slaughtering cows for hamburgers, but I don’t want to watch a video of it happening.” Which I think may be also telling. 😛
Post # 111
I wouldn’t circumsize my future daughter, why would I circumsize my son? Everyone knows circumsizion is for cosmetic reasons or cultural reasons only…there is no real reason to do this. I think it’s cruel.
Post # 112
Did… you even read what you posted?
“Pediatrics found the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks, but the benefits are not great enough to recommend universal newborn circumcision.“
In English: Getting circumcised is not risky. Your baby won’t explode or turn into a moose upon having his foreskin cut. However, just because he won’t explode or turn into a moose, doesn’t mean there is still any reason to do it.
Post # 113
Just FYI, there ARE some benefits. Whether those benefits are strong enough to validate circumsion is obviously something only the parents can decide, but when people say ‘there are no benefits’ that’s not true.
A friend’s dad had to be circumsized as an adult and it was terrible. So that’s one reason. Hygeine is a questionable argument, because while a circumsized penis is easier to clean you can still have a clean penis if you’re uncircumsized. Tears are more likely to happen in an uncircumsized penis.
On the flip side, the chance of needing a circumsion later in life, having tears ect is pretty low, so I’m sure many people don’t think of those reasons as being enough.
I’m not really concerned either way, but Fiance feels strongly for circumsion, so if we have a son one day then he will probably be circumsized.
Post # 114
- Wedding: September 2014 - Lodge
I circumsized both my boys. My reasoning is because this is the norm for males. I didn’t want my kids to grow up wondering why their penis looked different than their peers. I know how cruel kids can be in high school.
I was present when my oldest had his done, I worked for the hospital and knew my doctor very well. For whatever reason my son must have known he was going to have this done because he cried and cried and cried as we walked down the hall to the room it was to be done in, he was only about 24 hours old. We set him on the table and he cried even louder. They numbed his penis with some cream and he still cried. The doctor started doing her thing and he was quiet! Then she dressed his penis and he was still quiet. Then she picked him up and he started crying again lol.
For my second son I had to go to a different hospital because I had twins and was considered high risk. I was kind of glad to not be asked to see his circumcision like the last time because I was heartbroken that my oldest cried. I know it wasn’t traumatic or anything, he was probably more upset he was naked and exposed (even though the room was warm). So while they circumcised my youngest boy I sat in the hospital room and bonded with his twin sister.
Post # 115
Yes, I did read what I posted. Did you?
The american academy of pediatrics states that the benefits outweight the risks, but that every individual should chose for themselves with the guidance of their doctor. Because it is not a surgery that is a life or death issue, of course they will not recommend it across the board for every individual.
There are very few medical issues that organizations such as this provide across the board, blanket, universal unchangeable advice.
While I have not seen every penis of every man I ever come in contact with, I can tell you tha 99% of babies born in my hospital are circumsized and that I have seen one uncircumsized penis (of many, many penises) in my nursing career. I certainly would not “shun” any individual because of the state of his penis…but when he is an infant, other parents might. When he is a child, other children might. When he’s a teenager, other teenagers might (and they can be cruel!). As an adult, even, I’ve heard many women say simply “eww” when describing an intact penis.
It’s not right, but that’s the way it is. I would not want to subject my child to interactions like that for the rest of his life. I’ve known many adults who have gotten circumsized later in life because of the ridicule they’ve experienced. It happens. As much as you try to educate others, people are cruel. You can’t change the world.
I’m glad that your mother thinks so. I’m entitled to a different opinion, based on my nursing experiences, cultural experiences, and research.
Post # 116
It is hard. Generally, I don’t just defer to my Fiance and let him make decisions. I just don’t think I have enough frame of reference in this case to determine what is normal, how it would be perceived, and what the best choice for a man is. I’m sure my future son would be thrilled that his mother made the decision on his penis 😛 lol.
Seriously though, I think most people have their sons and husbands “match” in this way and I do feel that my husband will be the best person to make the decision. I’m not sure I agree with it – I’m on the fence, like you. But I can’t understand it enough to be the one to make the call.
Post # 117
So should we ask the doctor to save his foreskin for him to have it stitched back on later?
Post # 118
I circumsized my son. End of story. He’s MY child, and that was MY decision as his parent. I realize that this is a ‘hot’ issue, but it could go either way. Everyone has their own opinion/beliefs and nobody should judge eachother based on the decisions we make for ourselves or our children. I wouldn’t judge anyone for not circumsizing their son, so PLEASE don’t judge me for circumsizing my child.
Post # 119
You tell me.
I’m just trying to find a way to justify the argument of “what if he wants to do it later?”
Well let’s flip it. “What if he dosn’t?”
I think it is pretty much a fact that it is easier to remove then to reattach (though I’ve heard it has happend) so why wouldn;t you go with the easier option?
So what if there is pain, later, at least it is HIS choice of what to do with HIS BODY.
Post # 120
That’s what makes no sense:
He’s MY child, and that was MY decision
No it’s HIS body so it should be HIS choice!!!!
Same reasons why it is illegal for parents to put tat’s on their kids. With your argument it should be A-OK to do so. So do you think parents should be able to tatoo their kid’s? If so, why not?
Post # 121
Seriously? I think you should butt out of this. His father and I thought long & hard about this decision. We came up with the decision TOGETHER. Is he going to want the skin back on? Probably not. Is he going to resent us for cutting his foreskin off? Probably not. Would he feel weird if he noticed that his penis was different from his dad’s? Yes.
Do you really think that he’s going to make the decision to cut his foreskin off when he knows what it is when he’s 15 or 16? Should I tell him that I had a cosmetic surgery on his man-parts? Seriously. You need to chill.
And of course I put tattoo’s on him. He got his first one when he was 3. SERIOUSLY????