(Closed) Did you hire a friend? Were you a friend who was also the pro photog??

posted 11 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 18
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

We’re having a friend do ours and he’s a photographer.  

He did the photography for a friend’s movie premier.  not only did he socialize and have a GREAT time, but he got sooooo many AWESOME photos.  I should know, I used several for a “photo book” that I did.  It was a cheapy photobook, but I love it and so does my Fiance.  

Of course, the man knows how to mix work and pleasure and he’d be bringing his camera regardless, because that’s just who and what he is and does.  He also doesn’t usually do weddings; he hates being the photographer because it tends to stifle his creativeness.  I’ve seen the ones he’s done and yeah, very typical poses and stuff.  NOT the kind of photos we’re looking for! LOL!

So, is it possible: YES!  BUT only if the person already knows how to mix the two.  Not everyone can.

 

Post # 19
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

She won’t be able to be both photographer and guest and do a good job.

I shot a couple of my friends’ weddings, and it is a full on hard day’s work. I did get to be with my friend and the bridal party the whole day, so in that respect, it was better than being a guest. But, it was far from relaxing as a normal guest.

If you like her work and can pay what she wants, go for it. But don’t expect it to be a simple easy day for her (and keep in mind that she has up to 40 hours of editing ahead of her after the wedding!

Post # 20
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

i’m a professional photographer and i’m shooting two of my BFFs weddings this year. i wouldn’t have felt comfortable doing it just starting out, as i got nervous the first couple of weddings i was only the 2nd shooter at! now that i’ve figured out my shooting style and how i function during weddings, i’m so excited to be doing this for them! i obviously have a 2nd shooter and both of the weddings lend themselves to being an easier day logistically: first looks, one venue, relaxed brides, so we all feel great about the set up.

my friends were definitely worried about me having fun, but since they each have a strict budget, all the photogs in their price range were just starting out and not what they were looking for style-wise. i knew they would be disappointed in spending the money and still not getting what they wanted. yeah, i won’t be able to throw all my inhibitions to the wind, but at the end of the day, being there watching them get married and being able to give them such a great gift will mean more to me than drinking all night.

i’m giving them a discount because we’re best friends (the discount being their wedding gift!), but we still have a contract and i’m treating them like clients: timeline, walk-thrus, a set number of hours on the day of, etc. if i ever felt like it was going to be a conflict of interest, i wouldn’t dare offer to shoot their weddings. and i usually end up dancing with my camera at the end of weddings anyway, so i’m sure to have a good time. 🙂

(sorry that was so long, geesh)

Post # 21
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

@crayfish: very true.  but it also depends on the type of wedding you’re having.

It works perfectly for us because ours is a VERY laid back fun wedding.  (If we could have tag lines, the word “untraditional” would  be very big and bold, lol).  Our photographer is not only an awesome friend, but we love his STYLE.  I doubt we’d get such fun photos with anyone else.  Plus, I KNOW he’ll have his own ideas for photo ops, which is why we want him.  He’s an non-traditional as we are, I think! LOL!  

If you’re having a traditional wedding, I have to agree with the others, I think.  Especially if you want the typical poses and photos.  

Either way, I definitely wouldn’t dismiss her fervent request, since she’d probably be bringing it along and is really eager to do photography for you!  Not only that, but it could possibly hurt her if you don’t accept her request.  

good luck and I hope everyone ends up having an awesome time!!!  (like that’s in question, lol!)

 

Post # 22
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

@BirdofaFeather: that’s what I was trying to say!  so glad you could verbalize it better than me!!!  and yay for pro’s having fun!!! 😀

Post # 23
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

@Zinzerena: Just be aware that some of the best photos come in the reception party, and if she doesn’t want to be shooting then, you’re going to miss out on capturing of all of those interactions, moments, and fun.

Post # 24
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

@crayfish: like I said, he did a friend’s movie premier and the photos were AWESOME.  He doesn’t go anywhere without the camera.  There were tons of awesome photos and he had fun talking and socializing WHILE taking photos.  He didn’t miss anything at the premier, so I know he won’t miss anything at the wedding.  

We’re not restricting him and I know our other friends will also have cameras, too.  I can’t see him NOT taking photos the entire time, it just isn’t him.

He’s also done conventions and concerts.  Anywhere he goes that there’s an event, the camera goes too.  

Post # 26
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

A good friend of mine is a photographer and did not shoot our wedding – but he did walk around and shoot some of the ceremony anyway, and tagged along and took a bunch of family photos.  His stuff came out gorgeous and I was really happy to have a collection of portraits with a different look from our pro.

I think if we had actually hired him, it would have been for portraits and ceremony only.  There’s no way he would have been able to enjoy the party and take professional-level pictures at the same time.

Post # 27
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Busy bee

@futuremrshc:  I was obviously using the term “enjoy” in the same context that the OP was………enjoying the wedding as a guest would, mingling, drinking, eating, dancing,etc.

Post # 29
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: February 2009

I’m sort of surprised by some of the comments in this thread where people said that their photog/friend (“friendor”) brings their camera everywhere, takes their pro equipment no matter what, and would be shooting at their wedding with their pro gear anyway, even if not hired/requested, and critiquing/worrying about the pro the whole time.

That’s really not my experience within the photography community and, to be honest, that’s a little bothersome to pros while we are working.

I don’t shoot at things I attend for fun-that’s my time off. How are they getting releases for this kind of stuff? Shooting over someone’s shoulder is generally thought to be annoying. They surely have to realize that they are possibly interfering with the hired pro’s shots and possibly copying/stealing their set ups.

If your day job is catering, you don’t go to a friend’s wedding and start rearranging the food on the plates. If your day job is florist, you don’t go to a friend’s wedding and bring your shears and supplies and make a few extra decorations just in case. If your day job is bartender, you don’t start mixing up drinks at a friend’s wedding. If you are a landscaper, you don’t start pulling up weeds at the ceremony site. This is the equivalent to what photogs are doing in bringing all their gear to a place they aren’t contracted to shoot. Even if you really, really love what you do (and BECAUSE you really love what you do), you let the pro do their job.

Can you bring a camera? Absolutely. When I’m a guest, I bring a point and shoot. Maybe, maybe I would bring a 60D and a 24-70, and that’s it, not a huge collection of stuff, but probably not even that. And I would sit in my seat and enjoy the wedding and reception and not be up and shooting the whole time. That’s professionalism. You aren’t hired to do something, so you let the hired person do their job.

Post # 31
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

@kwynn: for the record, I NEVER said we’d have hired a photographer.  If the one friend hadn’t done it, we would’ve asked another.  BUT we knew our friend would do it and he knows what we want.  

I highly doubt we would’ve spent even a grand on a photog because of the budget.  We would’ve used our own camera and asked family/friends to share their photos with us.  

Just wanted to make sure no one was of the opinion there would’ve been pros there even if our friend hadn’t said he’d shoot our wedding.

 I’m pretty sure he’d bring his beloved camera, but doubtful on a tripod and a score of lenses and other stuff IF we hadn’t asked him.  

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