Different rules for different staff at work…wtf?

posted 4 months ago in Career
Post # 76
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

This isn’t discrimination OP. But if you don’t like people watching your time so closely, it sounds like this place isn’t the place for you. 

Post # 77
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

curiouscat2017 :  I’m confused by all the bees who think it’s a big deal that you’re occasionally 5 minutes late. In the workplaces I’ve worked people are routinely up to 5 minutes late to meetings

 

The meetings start at 8:50, but I would bet her start time is either 8 am or 8:30 am. So when she is 5 min late to a meeting, she is actually 25-55 min late to work.

 

This employee is still relatively new. An employee who has been there for many years, built up a lot of goodwill, etc. coming in late occasionally is one thing. Someone who has been there a few months (assuming these incidents have been happening perodically over her time there), who has already been told she needs to work on her soft skills and being more of a yes person, who has been reprimanded for ducking out early without telling anyone, is not going to be subject to the same grace as the long time employee.

 

And that’s not discrimination, that’s not unfair- someone with a strong track record is going to be cut some slack at times. That’s just the way it works.

Post # 78
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

curiouscat2017 :  I think part of this is a personal experience / company culture thing. I work in an office where I regularly work 40 hours by Thursday, but no one gives a f*** if I’m there at 8 or 8:30 or even 9 for 9:30, honestly). But I’ve worked for companies where if you haven’t walked through the office door by 8:29, my 2up wanted a text message with an eta and update on your location.  It was ridiculous. 

But it’s never good to miss or be late for a standing meeting. At least not regularly 

Post # 79
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Sugar bee

Don’t forget…she called in sick for an entire week because she was upset about some minor issues at her wedding.

Post # 80
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2012

This is like…the definition of entitlement.

Be on time. Worry about yourself and not your coworkers.

Comparison is the thief of joy and it’s about to cost you your job too.

Post # 81
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Bumble bee

Sansa85 :  You are so right. It definitely is the people who fight for fairsies that don’t put in the same amount of effort into a job. They haven’t earned the same privileges but believe they are automatically entitled to them. It drives me mad. My work is very flexible and understanding but different people have different arrangements with management for sure. The people with the least amount of oversight on their comings and goings are the ones who have proven themselves to management.

Post # 82
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

MrsMellyBean :  we have year end coming up and it’s a massive deadline. My manager told us, I’m not going to tell you that you need to stay late or come in on Saturday, I trust that you know what you need to do to get the work done

That comes with proving yourself, it’s earned, not given, like you said

Post # 83
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Buzzing bee

shadows9x :  literally wish I was your boss so that I could write you up with HR’s and upper-management’s witness myself. your excuses are insane and you sound like an entitled brat. there is no excuse for your behavior, and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself. 

how old are you? 

Post # 84
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

Omg who tagged her thread 😆

Sansa85 :  lol… I was stupidly looking at the board thinking someone had bumped up an old thread of OPs that was interesting. I belatedly realised you meant the tag under her original post. Totally pissed myself laughing when I read entitled and millennial! Too funny but I’d hoped that the ability to do that had been addressed after Tyson had been made aware of the hidden feature. 😋

Totally appropriate meme and I’m sure what OPs manager is thinking

 

Post # 85
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Helper bee

This person obviously doesn’t care about any kind of opinion or advice. They only came back to say she found out that her coworker didn’t have a special arrangement, ignoring everyone’s comments and questions. 

Post # 86
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

pearl311 :  Yes, based on her one update, it’s clear she still thinks she’s being treated unfairly, and the only advice she hoped to get was how to force her employer to give her the same perks the long time employees have gotten despite her not wanting to put in the work to earn them. Since no one could offer her that, she probably isn’t even bothering to read this thread.

Post # 87
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Bumble bee

beepboopbop :  MrsMellyBean is right. I am an employment lawyer and I can assure you that there are many situations where an employer is prohibited by law from disclosing information that could impact an employee’s work schedule (such as an ADA accommodation or the like). Other employees have no right to that information and the employer could be sued for disclosing it.

In terms of pay transparency – yes, public employers (e.g., government) will post pay data for positions. Those requirements do not apply to private sector employers (in publicly traded companies, usually the top 5-6 exec comp is required to be disclosed in SEC filings). However, in the US, if you are a non-exempt/non-statutory supervisor “employee,” you can discuss the terms and conditions of your employment (including your wages/pay and benefits) with your coworkers without employer interference pursuant to Section 7 of the NLRA. In other words, an employer cannot prohibit such discussions nor take adverse employment action, like discipline, if employees discuss these topics. HR professionals are still prohibited from sharing such confidential information with anyone other than the employee. And depending on the US state in which you are employed, there may be additional protections under state law related to the freedom to discuss pay. Federal law does not protect employees in supervisory roles and employers may limit or prohibit disclosure or discussion of their salaries as long as it is not part of an underlying discrimination claim. 

 

Post # 88
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Honey bee

zl27 :  In fairness, if any of us were dead set on marrying an abusive POS we’d all probably be distraught, too, that we didn’t at least get the “perfect” wedding to show for all our trouble dealing with that human garbage.

I’d hoped that eventually OP would have an aha moment and realize she spent a week crying because it finally dawned on her that she actually went through with marrying an abusive asshole, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

Post # 89
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2018

I didn’t even realise this was the bee who took a week off work sick because she was “traumatized” by being a bitch at her wedding.  Wow no wonder your manager is saying the other co worker has built up more trust! 

Post # 90
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: City, State

beepboopbop :  “Lmao gtfoh. She’s salaried. It’s bullshit for them to give her 9-5 hours, & then hold a daily mtg at 850am, & consider her late? What in the actual hell? She’s not late.”

First of all, working 9-5 with a lunch break is NOT full time 40 hours. Full time 40 hours with a 30 minute lunch break would be 8:30 to 5 or 9 to 5:30. Can anyone on this thread (including OP) even do math??! 

Second, you put “she’s salaried” and something regarding hours in the same line. Super contradictory. Salary in it self means NOT HOURLY. The definition of a salaried position is to do what it takes to do your job regardless of hours worked. It could be less than 40 hours one week, and more than 40 hours another week, but it is to do your job and in OP’s case that means supporting required meetings. 

It does not matter what the other person on her team does with her time and is completely irrelevant. She is a different person with a different job requirement, different projects and tasks, and different salary. She is doing what it takes to do her job per her salary, and OP needs to do what it takes to do her own job for her salary. Maybe this woman is more efficient and completes her job duties in full within those hours. OP is clearly not meeting her job duties if that means attending morning meetings. This is exactly why equal pay is hard to establish – not everyone has the same experience, project tasks and efficiency. 

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