Different rules for different staff at work…wtf?

posted 4 months ago in Career
Post # 92
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Buzzing Beekeeper

To be fair the OP is Australian and the average work week is 38hrs and not 40hrs. We also treat employment slightly different as well. When we say salary we are in general talking about what we earn and that could be for anyone who is employed FT or PT. Our hours of work are usually disclosed in our contract and/or the overarching legislation that covers employment (an award or EBA in most cases). It is rare (but not unheard of) that an employee at a lower level is not paid overtime for every minute worked past 38hrs. Depending on awards/EBA’s the total amount of hours an employer can ask you to work in a week or fortnight is capped as well. An employee can choose to work unpaid overtime but it is generally frowned upon in most industries and by fair work. We have really good labour laws in this country to protect workers rights. 

We also aren’t as shy about talking about money as other nations. I know roughly what all my siblings and friends earn, I know how much they paid for their cars, rings, houses etc. Money isn’t as much of a taboo subject here but that could also be because for most occupations there is a published wage scale. We even have a thing called wage line (government run) that you can call to ask what you should be being paid. SO if someone was nosey enough they could just ring that and get a rough esitmate of what a colleague could/should be earning by giving details of the industry and job requirements etc.

So OP probably did have a 9-5 work schedule. I know I have had that my whole working career, well to be exact hours were  7hrs and 36 mins per day and my salary was $Xyz which all my collegaues would have known because of the grade and level I was on.

Post # 93
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Sugar bee

j_jaye :  She’s typically working 38 hours and 20 minutes assuming a 30 minute lunch (8:50 meeting daily, and leaving at 5pm). Occasionally she has to work a few extra hours. She doesn’t say whether she is paid overtime, but she did say she is the highest paid financial analyst two steps away from the CFO.

Given that, how is coming in late, sneaking out early without permission, watching her colleagues like a hawk, and bitching about fairsies viewed in Australia?

Post # 94
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Busy bee

beepboopbop :  I agree with your point on transparency of pay. It helps all of us, especially women, who may not be as aggressive about demanding raises.

But why are you so against feminists? If you believe in equal treatment for women and men, then that makes you a feminist. 

The notion that feminism = some kind of special favorable treatment for women is a total straw man. 

Post # 95
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Bumble bee

annabananabee :  wow. are you really that heartless that you can laugh at another women for being in an abusive marriage? 

 

Post # 96
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Honey bee

happyjuju :  Who said I was laughing?  

It wasn’t a joke.  I sincerely hoped she came to a realization that the likely source of her angst is the fact that she shouldn’t have gone ahead with it in the first place and the hyperfocus on the “perfection” of the wedding event itself was a coping mechanism.  I sincerely would have cried, too, but not over the cake. – that situation is certainly worthy of tears.  The real joke would be if what she says she was actually crying about and took a week off work for (not cutting the cake, paying attention to her decor, etc) was actually her real reason and not what she really should be worried about.

 

Post # 97
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Buzzing Beekeeper

I have repeatedly said in this thread that the coming in late is out of line and her general busybody and entitled attitude is crap. I am pretty sure her manager has been softly pointing that out only to fall on deaf ears.  Also 20 mins is often the minimum lunch .

I just find the general assumption that every country works the same as USA bees really ignorant.  zl27 :  

Post # 98
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3284 posts
Sugar bee

j_jaye :  ah, I misunderstood your intro of “to be fair.” 

Post # 99
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633 posts
Busy bee

beepboopbop :  

“but in a lot of US States, that’s a totally sue-able offense, especially if she’s in a protected class”

 

Hahahahaha.

No.

Post # 100
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Sugar Beekeeper

happyjuju :  The point is, OP has much bigger issues than a wedding that didn’t go according to her vision, some of which I think are quite relevant to this thread and reasons for concern in general. 

She has problems relating to people, has made no friends in the past ten years, suffers from anxiety and obsesses. She doesn’t fully process or respond normally to blatantly abusive behavior, doesn’t seem to take hints or respond typically to social cues, including in the workplace. I won’t diagnose by internet, but I think all of these things are more than likely related.

OP, I really do think you would benefit tremendously from counseling.

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