(Closed) Disgusting Duggar Interview

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Post # 181
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Sugar bee
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LilRhodyGem:  can’t deal hahahahaaa!!!!

Can you imagine if they were really reading this though?

Post # 182
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Sugar bee
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TinderBoxx:  No, I don’t and if I did, I wouldn’t why is that even relevant? No where have I suggested his past behaviour was okay or that he should be allowed around children?

Post # 183
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Helper bee

So I wonder…did the crazy creepy “side hugs, no hand holding, etc” doctrination begin BEFORE Josh, or BECAUSE of Josh? 

Also, how many kids did they go on to have after Josh informed them that he did this? Because that’s also fucked up…let’s just have more kids to put in his path of perversion. 

Post # 184
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Bee Keeper

Dragonfly715:  He should have never been allowed back in the home. That was a total parenting fail on JimBob and Michelle’s part.

Post # 185
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Buzzing Beekeeper

lmo013:  By psychological and legal definitions he is a peadophile. You only need to meet one criterion to be classified as a peadophile but the lovely Josh Duggars meets both.

“Under the current manual of the DSM (DSM-IV-TR), a diagnosis of pedophilia necessitates that an individual of at least sixteen years of age (and at least five years older than the child involved) meet two requirements.

“The first criterion is “recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)” that takes place for “a period of at least 6 months.

“The second criterion requires that the person has acted on these sexual urges or is markedly distressed by them.

“Pedophilia includes any combination of the two. The diagnosis is further delineated into the specifications of (1) whether the individual is sexually attracted to male children, female children, or both; (2) whether the individual’s behavior is limited to incest; and (3) whether the individual is sexually attracted exclusively to children, or to both children and adults. “When the “or behaviors” component of the first criterion is combined with the “acted” component of the second criterion, an individual can be diagnosed with pedophilia based simply on a sexual act with a child, absent a particular mental state.”

 

 

Bridey77:  

Post # 186
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Busy Beekeeper
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j_jaye:  But he wasn’t 16 yet, according to their story.

Post # 187
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Sugar bee
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MeandMyLouboutins:  i didnt know the basis for the modesty, that is really informative. Thanks for sharing.

serious question are there any rules. In judaism its collarbone to ankle and over elbow by custom do you have a general custom?

Post # 188
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Buzzing Beekeeper

Cory_loves_this_girl:  he was in 2003 when the crimes were still being perpetrated. So he fits the legal definition.

Post # 189
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Busy Beekeeper
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j_jaye:  Acccording to the police report, Josh told his parents about another incident in March of 2003. I looked it up, and he was born in March of 1988, so he would have just turned 15. That’s the last incident on the police report.

Who knows, there could have been more incidents after that point, but that’s what’s in the police report. So no, he wasn’t 16 yet.

Post # 190
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Busy bee
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j_jaye:  he was 15… But I’m not really trying to defend him, I’m just not a doctor and don’t want to diagnose him 

but he doesn’t necessarily meet the actual 1,2 or 3 criteria either. Just because you molest a child doesn’t mean you’re attracted to her. meeting the necessary requirements for diagnoses doesn’t make you a pedophile, we saw that just recently with Lena Dunham ..

besides… Does it really matter if he IS or not? It’s wrong either way. It doesn’t really matter what we diagnose him, he’s a sexual predator either way. His parents should be ashamed either way.. You need to let the actions speak for themselves (they were horrible and probably scarring to those poor girls) and let doctors figure out if he needs to be chemically castrated

Post # 191
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lmo013:  The age is really more of a legal thing to do with charges/pleas (for minors the courts wrongly imo deflect responsibility for teens due to age). 

The Lena Dunham case is equally as wrong in the sense of taking advantage of a child but completely different in that it was one child and (I think? Not familiar with her or her book) one incident. So it doesn’t meet the criteria. Josh repeatedly abused several victims. To fit the classification attraction does not have to be part of it if you read the criteria correctly. He carried out behaviours involving sexual activity for more than 6 months (criterion 1) and acted on sexual urges (criterion 2 – curiosity that leads to an act is a sexual urge). He is a casebook example of a peadophile. Peadophiles can also have sexual attraction towards adults.

In my professional opinion it is really important to classify him as this because it highlights that these actions even though he was a teen are dangerous and abusive and illegal. If we can make exceptions for him shouldn’t we also make exceptions for every other peadophile out there? Because I know there are a lot of peadophiles out there that had fucked up childhoods. 

It also speaks to the epidemic that is violence against women. Once again an influential/popular/famous males action of violence against women is minimised and glossed over. If this was a random black 15 yr old male do you really think there would be so much support for him? Cries of it was his background? Or would he be tried and put on the sex offenders list?

But I agree with you that the parents and officals involved are just as complicate in these crimes and there cover up. Unfortunately his victims don’t seem to be getting the proper support they really need.

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